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Washington ESD unemployment when you quit - any way to qualify?

I'm in a really tough spot and wondering if there's any way to get unemployment benefits after quitting my job. I had to leave my position at a manufacturing plant because my supervisor was creating a hostile work environment - constantly yelling, making unreasonable demands, and basically making it impossible to do my job safely. I tried talking to HR twice but nothing changed. I know Washington ESD usually denies claims when you quit, but I've heard there might be exceptions for good cause. Has anyone successfully gotten unemployment when you quit for reasons like this? What kind of documentation do I need?

Yes, Washington ESD does allow unemployment benefits when you quit for good cause connected to the work. Hostile work environment can qualify if you can document it. You'll need to show you tried to resolve the issue first (which you did with HR) and that the situation was intolerable. Save any emails, write down dates of incidents, get witness statements if possible.

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Thank you! I do have some emails and I wrote down dates. Should I file the claim now or wait until I have more documentation?

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File as soon as possible. You can submit additional documentation during the adjudication process, but don't delay filing because there's a waiting period anyway.

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I quit my job last year for similar reasons and got approved after a long fight. The key is proving you had no other reasonable choice. Document everything - harassment, unsafe conditions, failure of employer to address issues. Washington ESD will investigate both sides.

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How long did the whole process take for you? I'm worried about paying bills while waiting.

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About 6 weeks total. The adjudication took 4 weeks, then I had to appeal their initial denial. Eventually got approved with back pay.

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How does that work exactly? I've been trying to call Washington ESD for days with no luck.

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the system is so messed up, they'll probably deny it anyway even with good cause. i quit because of harassment too and they said i should have just dealt with it. took 3 months to get approved on appeal

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That's discouraging but good to know you eventually got approved. Did you have a lawyer for the appeal?

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nope, did it myself. just made sure to present all my evidence clearly and stuck to the facts

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Here are the specific good cause reasons Washington ESD recognizes for voluntary quit: harassment, discrimination, significant change in working conditions, unsafe working conditions, domestic violence situations, and a few others. Hostile work environment falls under harassment if you can prove it.

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What about if your hours got cut drastically? I went from 40 hours to 15 hours a week and couldn't survive on that.

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Significant reduction in hours can qualify as good cause too, especially if it's a substantial decrease like yours. You'd need to show the reduction wasn't temporary.

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I'm dealing with something similar right now. My manager has been making my life hell since I refused to work unpaid overtime. I've been documenting everything but scared to quit because I need the income. How do you prove hostile work environment?

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Keep detailed records - dates, times, witnesses present, exact words used. Email summaries to yourself after incidents. File complaints with HR in writing so there's a paper trail.

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That's exactly what I wish I had done more of. Start documenting now before you quit if possible.

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Been there! Took me forever to get through to Washington ESD to ask about my good cause claim. Finally used that Claimyr service someone mentioned and got connected same day. Game changer when you need to actually talk to someone about your specific situation.

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I'm definitely going to look into that. The phone system is impossible to navigate.

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Yeah, saved me so much frustration. Worth it just to avoid the endless busy signals and getting disconnected.

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One thing to remember - when you file your initial claim, be very clear about why you quit. Don't just say 'hostile work environment' - be specific about the behaviors and how they affected your ability to work. Washington ESD adjudicators need concrete details.

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Good point. I'll make sure to be detailed in my application about the specific incidents and how I tried to address them.

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wait, you can get unemployment if you quit?? i thought that was impossible. i've been stuck in a terrible job for months because i thought quitting meant no benefits

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It's not easy and you need to prove good cause, but yes it's possible. Most people don't know about the exceptions to the general rule.

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this changes everything. i need to research what qualifies as good cause for my situation

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Just want to add - if you do get your claim approved, don't forget about the job search requirements. You'll still need to log your job search activities every week. Washington ESD is pretty strict about that even for good cause quits.

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Thanks for the reminder. I assume the work search requirements are the same regardless of why you're unemployed?

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Exactly. Three job contacts per week minimum, and they need to be documented in your WorkSourceWA account.

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the whole process is a nightmare tbh. even when you have good cause they make you jump through hoops and wait forever. but it's worth fighting for if you really had no choice but to quit

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I appreciate the honest perspective. I'm prepared for it to be difficult but I really didn't have any other options.

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Document everything is key advice. I helped my sister through this process last year. She had a supervisor who was borderline abusive and creating unsafe conditions. Washington ESD initially denied her claim but she appealed with all her documentation and witness statements and won.

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How long did the appeal process take? I'm trying to plan financially for how long this might take.

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About 8 weeks from filing the appeal to getting a decision. But she got back pay once it was approved.

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I had to quit for medical reasons (job was aggravating a chronic condition) and got approved. The key is showing you tried to work with your employer first and that continuing to work wasn't feasible.

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That's encouraging. I definitely tried to work with HR and my supervisor before making the decision to quit.

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Just a heads up - Washington ESD will contact your former employer as part of the investigation. Be prepared for them to dispute your version of events. That's why documentation is so important.

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I figured they would. Hopefully the fact that I filed complaints with HR will support my case.

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Yes, those HR complaints will definitely help establish a pattern and show you tried to address the issues through proper channels.

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Another vote for that Claimyr service if you need to talk to Washington ESD about your claim. I was stuck in adjudication limbo for weeks and needed to provide additional information. Got through to an agent in one day instead of spending weeks trying to call.

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How much does something like that cost? I'm already tight on money after quitting my job.

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It's worth checking out their site for current pricing. For me it was worth it to avoid the stress of endless calling attempts.

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One more tip - when you file your weekly claims, make sure to answer all questions accurately about your job search efforts and availability for work. Even with a good cause quit, you still need to meet all the ongoing eligibility requirements.

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Good reminder. I'll make sure to stay on top of the weekly requirements once I file.

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The fact that you went to HR twice shows you made a good faith effort to resolve the situation. That's exactly what Washington ESD looks for in good cause cases. Don't give up if you get an initial denial - many good cause claims get approved on appeal.

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Thank you for the encouragement. I'm going to file this week and see what happens.

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been following this thread because i'm in a similar boat. thanks everyone for sharing your experiences, this has been really helpful to understand the process

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Good luck with your situation! Hopefully we both get positive outcomes.

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Final thought - even if the process is challenging, don't let that discourage you from filing if you genuinely had good cause to quit. The benefits are there for situations exactly like yours, and Washington ESD does approve these claims when the evidence supports it.

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Thanks to everyone who shared advice and experiences. I'm feeling much more confident about moving forward with my claim.

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Update us on how it goes! Always helpful to hear real experiences with the Washington ESD good cause process.

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I definitely will. Going to file this week and document everything along the way.

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