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Lim Wong

Can you get Washington ESD unemployment for hostile work environment?

I had to quit my job last month because of a really hostile work environment. My supervisor was constantly yelling at me in front of customers, making personal attacks about my appearance, and creating impossible deadlines just to watch me fail. I documented everything but HR basically told me to deal with it. I couldn't take it anymore for my mental health so I resigned. Now I'm wondering if I can still get unemployment benefits from Washington ESD since I technically quit? Has anyone successfully gotten UI benefits after quitting due to hostile work environment? What kind of proof do I need?

Yes you can potentially get benefits if you quit for good cause! In Washington this is called voluntary quit with good cause. You'll need to prove the work environment was so bad that any reasonable person would have quit.

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That's exactly what I'm hoping for. I have emails and witness statements from coworkers. Do you know what the process is like with Washington ESD?

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You'll need to file your claim and explain why you quit. They'll investigate and possibly contact your former employer. Make sure you have all your documentation ready.

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I went through this exact situation two years ago. Washington ESD will approve benefits for hostile work environment but you need solid documentation. I had to provide emails, witness statements, and medical records showing stress from the job.

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Did they approve your claim? How long did the investigation take?

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It took about 6 weeks total. They interviewed me, my former boss, and two coworkers. I was approved because I had clear evidence of harassment.

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Six weeks is pretty typical for these types of cases. The adjudication process takes time when there's a voluntary quit involved.

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Just so you know, Washington ESD has specific criteria for what qualifies as good cause to quit. It has to be work-related, substantial, and you need to show you tried to resolve it first. Sounds like you did with HR though.

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I definitely tried to resolve it through proper channels first. I have emails to HR and my manager documenting the issues.

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That's good - Washington ESD wants to see you made reasonable efforts to fix the situation before quitting.

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Xan Dae

I was in a similar boat but couldn't get through to Washington ESD for weeks to explain my situation. Kept getting busy signals or disconnected after waiting forever. Finally used this service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that got me through to an actual agent. They have a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ showing how it works. Really helped me explain my hostile work environment case properly.

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Interesting, never heard of that. Did it actually work for getting through to someone?

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Xan Dae

Yeah, got connected within like 20 minutes instead of trying for days. The agent was able to walk me through exactly what documentation I needed for my quit with good cause claim.

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Hmm sounds too good to be true but I guess if you're desperate to talk to someone it might be worth it.

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hostile work environment is definitely grounds for quitting and getting UI in washington. but be prepared for your employer to fight it. they'll probably deny everything and claim you were a problem employee

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That's what I'm worried about. My boss is definitely the type to lie and make me look bad.

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That's why documentation is so important. Washington ESD will look at all the evidence, not just what your employer says.

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The key factors Washington ESD looks at for voluntary quit with good cause are: 1) The working conditions were intolerable, 2) You took reasonable steps to resolve the issue, 3) Quitting was your only reasonable option. From what you described, it sounds like you might have a strong case.

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This is really helpful. I definitely felt like I had no other choice after HR basically ignored my complaints.

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Make sure to emphasize that in your claim. Washington ESD needs to see that you exhausted other options first.

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Also document any health impacts from the stress. That can strengthen your case significantly.

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I would file your claim ASAP. You can always appeal if they deny it initially, but you don't want to wait too long. In Washington you have to file within a certain timeframe after leaving your job.

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Good point. I'll start the application tonight. Better to get the process started even if I'm still gathering documents.

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Exactly. You can always provide additional documentation later if needed during the investigation.

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ugh the whole system is so complicated. why do they make it so hard for people who legitimately need help? like if your boss is abusing you at work you shouldn't have to jump through hoops to get benefits

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because employers lobby against easy unemployment benefits. they don't want people quitting jobs even if they're toxic

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While I agree it can be frustrating, the requirements do help prevent fraud and ensure benefits go to people who truly need them.

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Make sure you keep copies of EVERYTHING. Washington ESD might ask for the same documents multiple times during their investigation.

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Good advice. I've already started organizing everything into folders by date.

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Smart approach. I wish I had been that organized from the start - would have saved me a lot of scrambling later.

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Just want to add that even if you get approved, your former employer can still appeal the decision. So be prepared for that possibility and keep all your documentation handy.

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How likely is it that they would appeal? And what happens if they do?

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Many employers do appeal UI claims to protect their unemployment tax rates. If they appeal, there will be a hearing where both sides present evidence.

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The hearing is usually over the phone and fairly informal. Just stick to the facts and let your documentation speak for itself.

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i had a toxic boss too but was too scared to quit without another job lined up. good for you for prioritizing your mental health. hope Washington ESD approves your claim!

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Thanks for the support. It was definitely scary but I couldn't keep sacrificing my wellbeing for a paycheck.

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you did the right thing. no job is worth destroying your mental health over

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Another thing to consider - if you have any medical documentation about stress, anxiety, or other health issues caused by the work environment, that can really strengthen your case with Washington ESD.

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I do have some doctor visits related to stress and insomnia. Should I include those medical records with my claim?

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Absolutely. Medical evidence showing the job impacted your health is very compelling for good cause determinations.

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Been following this thread and wanted to mention that I also used Claimyr when I needed to reach Washington ESD about my own quit with good cause situation. Really glad I found that service because I was getting nowhere with the regular phone lines. The agent I spoke with knew exactly which forms I needed and walked me through the whole process.

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That's two people now who've mentioned Claimyr. Might be worth looking into if I need to talk to someone at Washington ESD.

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Xan Dae

Yeah it's definitely legit. Saved me weeks of frustration trying to get through on my own.

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Don't forget that while your claim is being investigated, you should still be filing your weekly claims and doing job searches. Washington ESD requires you to meet all the regular UI requirements even during adjudication.

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Good point. I wasn't sure if I should start job searching before my claim is approved.

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Yes, you need to be actively seeking work and logging your job search activities. This shows Washington ESD you're serious about finding new employment.

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whatever you do don't exaggerate or lie about anything. washington esd will investigate thoroughly and if they catch you in any inconsistencies it will hurt your case

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Definitely planning to stick to just the facts. I have enough documented evidence that I don't need to embellish anything.

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That's the right approach. Let the evidence speak for itself and be completely honest about everything.

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One more tip - when you're explaining your situation to Washington ESD, focus on specific incidents and behaviors rather than general statements. 'My boss yelled at me daily in front of customers' is much stronger than 'my boss was mean to me.

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That makes sense. I have specific dates and witnesses for several incidents so I'll focus on those concrete examples.

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Exactly right. Washington ESD needs factual details they can investigate, not just general complaints.

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Also consider whether there were any company policies that were violated. If your employer had harassment policies they didn't follow, that strengthens your good cause argument.

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Good point. They definitely have policies against hostile work environments that were completely ignored when I reported issues.

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Make sure to get a copy of those policies if you can. Shows Washington ESD that the employer failed to maintain a safe work environment.

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hoping everything works out for you! the system isn't perfect but washington does try to help people in genuine hostile work situations. sounds like you have a solid case with all your documentation

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Thanks for all the encouragement. This thread has been incredibly helpful in understanding what to expect from the process.

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Happy to help. Good luck with your claim and I hope you find a much better work environment soon!

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Just remember that even if Washington ESD initially denies your claim, you can appeal within 30 days. Sometimes they're more conservative on the first review but appeals officers look more carefully at the evidence.

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That's reassuring to know. I'll keep that option in mind if needed.

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The appeal process gives you a chance to present your case more fully, especially if new information comes to light.

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And during an appeal hearing you can have witnesses testify on your behalf, which can be very powerful.

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Last thing I'll add - while you're waiting for your claim decision, document any ongoing effects from the hostile work environment. If you're seeing a therapist or having trouble sleeping, keep records. It shows the lasting impact of what you experienced.

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That's a really good point I hadn't considered. I am still dealing with anxiety from that job so I should probably document that.

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Absolutely. Washington ESD considers the ongoing impact when determining if quitting was reasonable under the circumstances.

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Shows that the work environment wasn't just temporarily stressful but had serious lasting effects on your wellbeing.

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