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Micah Trail

Washington ESD claim after job elimination due to technology changes - structural unemployment benefits?

My position was eliminated last month when my company automated most of our data entry department with new software. I've been working the same job for 8 years and now I'm being told my skills are obsolete. Filed for Washington ESD unemployment but I'm wondering if there are special programs for people displaced by technology changes? I keep hearing about 'structural unemployment' but don't know if that affects my benefits or if I qualify for retraining programs through WorkSource. Has anyone dealt with this situation before?

Sorry to hear about your situation. Technology displacement is unfortunately common these days. Washington ESD treats your claim like any other UI claim - you'll get regular unemployment benefits while you search for work. The term 'structural unemployment' is more of an economic concept, but it doesn't change your benefit eligibility.

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Thanks, that's reassuring. Do you know if there are any special job training programs I should look into?

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Yes! Check out the Trade Adjustment Assistance (TAA) program if your company's closure was related to foreign competition, or look into WIA training programs through WorkSource.

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I went through something similar when my accounting firm switched to cloud-based systems and cut half the staff. Regular Washington ESD benefits kicked in right away, but I had to meet all the usual job search requirements even though my field was changing rapidly.

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How did you handle the job search requirements when your skills were outdated? Did Washington ESD give you any flexibility?

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You still have to apply for suitable work, but I was able to include training courses as part of my work search activities. Document everything you do.

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Had a major breakthrough with Washington ESD contact issues when I found Claimyr (claimyr.com). Been trying to get through to discuss my displaced worker status for weeks with no luck. Their system got me connected to an actual agent who explained all my options including training programs. There's a helpful video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows exactly how it works.

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Interesting, never heard of that service. Did they help you understand the retraining benefits?

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Yes! The agent I spoke with through Claimyr explained that I could potentially get extended benefits while in approved training programs. Much better than the generic info on the website.

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This sounds helpful - I've been calling Washington ESD for two weeks with no luck getting through to anyone.

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Structural unemployment is a real thing but Washington ESD doesn't have a separate category for it. Your benefits are based on your work history and earnings, regardless of why you lost your job. What matters is that you're able and available for work and actively seeking employment.

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That's not entirely true - there are extended benefit programs for people in declining industries or those who need retraining.

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You're right, I should have been more specific. The basic UI benefits are the same, but there are additional programs available depending on circumstances.

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The whole system is rigged against workers anyway. Companies get tax breaks for automating jobs but we get stuck with the same inadequate unemployment system that hasn't kept up with economic reality. Technology unemployment should have special protections!

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I understand the frustration, but the current Washington ESD system does provide benefits while you transition to new employment.

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20 weeks of benefits doesn't replace 8 years of experience that's now worthless because of some algorithm.

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For technology displacement specifically, look into the WIOA (Workforce Innovation and Opportunity Act) programs. WorkSource Washington can connect you with training funds that might extend your benefits while you learn new skills relevant to today's job market.

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Do I need to apply for these programs separately from my regular unemployment claim?

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Yes, WIOA is separate but you can receive both benefits simultaneously if approved. Contact your local WorkSource office to start the application process.

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automation displaced me from manufacturing 2 years ago, still struggling to find comparable work even after retraining. the benefits help but they dont last long enough for a complete career change

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What type of retraining did you do? I'm trying to figure out what skills are actually in demand.

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went into IT support but the market is saturated. probably should have researched better before choosing a program

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Update on my Claimyr experience - the agent I connected with helped me understand that technology displacement can qualify for Trade Readjustment Allowances in some cases. Much more detailed info than I could find online. Worth checking out if you're hitting walls with regular Washington ESD contact methods.

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Thanks for the follow-up! I'm definitely going to try this - been getting nowhere with the regular phone lines.

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How quickly were you able to get connected? I've been trying to reach someone for days about my adjudication status.

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The key thing to understand is that while structural unemployment affects entire industries, your individual claim is processed the same way. However, there are federal programs designed specifically for workers displaced by trade, technology, or economic shifts that can provide extended benefits and training funding.

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How do I find out if my situation qualifies for these federal programs?

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Start with your WorkSource office - they can do an assessment and help you apply for appropriate programs. Also check if your former employer filed any WARN notices.

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I work for WorkSource and see technology displacement cases regularly. While your regular UI benefits aren't different, you may qualify for Individual Training Accounts (ITAs) that can fund education while you collect benefits. The process requires meeting with a counselor to develop an employment plan.

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This is exactly what I needed to know! Do I need to wait until my Washington ESD claim is approved to apply for training funds?

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No, you can start the WorkSource process immediately. In fact, it's better to start early since there can be waiting lists for popular training programs.

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Do these training accounts cover any type of education or are there restrictions on what you can study?

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Been trying to get through to Washington ESD for over a week about my technology displacement situation. Phone lines are always busy and the online messaging system isn't helpful for complex questions like this. Anyone have suggestions for actually reaching a human?

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Definitely try Claimyr - mentioned it earlier in this thread. Saved me hours of calling and actually got me connected to someone who understood my situation.

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I'll check that out, thanks. This is so frustrating when you need answers about benefit eligibility.

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same boat here - company replaced our entire customer service dept with chatbots. filed for unemployment but worried about the job search requirements since most similar jobs are also being automated

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You still need to search for suitable work, but 'suitable' takes into account labor market conditions. If an entire occupation is declining, suitable work expands to related fields.

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that makes sense. do I need to document how the labor market has changed or will Washington ESD understand automatically?

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The distinction between structural and other types of unemployment matters more for economists and policymakers than for individual benefit claims. What matters for your Washington ESD claim is that you're unemployed through no fault of your own and meet the other eligibility requirements.

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That helps clarify things. I was getting confused by all the different unemployment terminology I was reading about online.

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Yeah, the academic classifications don't really affect your day-to-day benefit experience. Focus on the practical steps for your claim and job search.

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Technology unemployment is just the new normal. My dad went through this in the 90s when computers replaced bookkeepers, now it's happening to everyone. At least we have better unemployment benefits now than he did back then.

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That's true - the benefit amounts are higher and there are more retraining options available now through WorkSource.

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right, plus you can do a lot of the job search online now instead of physically going to every business

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Quick reminder for everyone dealing with technology displacement - make sure you're documenting any skills training or professional development you do as part of your work search activities. Washington ESD accepts relevant coursework and certifications as qualifying job search contacts.

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Good to know! I've been taking some online courses but wasn't sure if they counted toward my job search requirements.

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As long as they're relevant to your field or the jobs you're seeking, they count. Keep records of course completion and any certifications earned.

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honestly the whole structural unemployment thing is overblown, people have always had to adapt when technology changes, its just happening faster now

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While adaptation has always been necessary, the pace and scale of current technological displacement is unprecedented. That's why there are specific programs to help workers transition.

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fair point, guess the support systems need to keep up with the pace of change

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For what it's worth, I used Claimyr last month when I needed to speak with Washington ESD about my displaced worker status and it was worth every penny. Got connected within minutes instead of spending hours on hold. The agent was able to explain exactly which retraining programs I qualified for.

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Thanks for sharing your experience - seems like multiple people have had success with this service for getting through to Washington ESD.

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How much does something like that cost? I'm already tight on money from being unemployed.

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Final thoughts for the original poster - your situation is unfortunately common but there are resources available. Start your regular Washington ESD claim immediately, connect with WorkSource for training opportunities, and don't let the economic terminology confuse you. Focus on the practical steps: file weekly claims, meet job search requirements, and explore retraining options that match current labor market demands.

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Thank you everyone for all the helpful information! I feel much more prepared to navigate this situation now. Going to contact WorkSource tomorrow and look into the training programs mentioned.

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You're welcome! Remember that this transition period is temporary. Many people successfully change careers after technology displacement - you're not starting from zero, you're building on your existing work experience.

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Good luck OP! Keep us updated on how things go with your claim and any training programs you get into. This kind of info helps other people in similar situations.

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Will do! Really appreciate this community for providing real answers instead of just the generic stuff you find on government websites.

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