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ESD overpayment notice after being fired - do I really owe?

Opened my mail yesterday to find an ESD overpayment notice saying I owe $6,245 back! I'm completely shocked and confused because I was FIRED from my restaurant management job when I applied for unemployment in March. My former employer told me they wouldn't contest it since they let me go during restructuring. The letter says something about 'misconduct' being reported, but that's absolutely not what happened. Has anyone dealt with this kind of situation before? The notice says I have 30 days to appeal or set up a payment plan, but I honestly don't have that kind of money. Do I need a lawyer? This feels like my ex-boss is getting revenge for something.

Ugh the EXACT same thing happened to me last summer!! My boss fired me then told ESD i quit so they hit me with a $4k overpayment. Its total BS how they always believe employers over us!!!!!

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Evan Kalinowski

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Did you end up having to pay it back? I'm seriously considering just ignoring it but I'm worried they'll garnish my wages or something.

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Jasmine Quinn

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Don't panic, but definitely don't ignore this notice. You need to file an appeal within 30 days - that's the most important thing right now. The appeal form should have been included with your overpayment notice. On the appeal, clearly explain that you were fired during restructuring and did not commit misconduct. Request all your employment records from your former employer to support your case. If they told you they wouldn't contest it, see if you have any emails or texts documenting that. During the appeal process, the collection is usually paused, so you don't need to start paying immediately while it's being reviewed.

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Evan Kalinowski

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Thank you! I didn't see any appeal form with the notice, just instructions to appeal online through my eServices account. Would text messages between me and my assistant manager count as evidence? She knew I was being let go and even apologized about it.

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Oscar Murphy

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when i got my OP notice last year i couldnt get anyone at esd on the phone for like 2 weeks!! they kept saying high call volume blah blah. finally used claimyr.com to get through immediately - they have a video showing how it works https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ?si=26TzE_zGms-DODN3. worth it to get this sorted asap since the appeal deadline is strict and you need to know what evidence they have against you

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Nora Bennett

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is that service legit? seems sketchy that we have to pay extra just to talk to ESD when our tax dollars already fund them 🙄

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Oscar Murphy

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yeah its totally legit - they just help you skip the phone queue. i was skeptical too but i was desperate after trying for 9 days straight and getting hung up on. the agent i talked to actually helped me understand exactly what documentation i needed for my appeal

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Ryan Andre

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I dealt with almost this exact situation in January and won my appeal. Here's what you need to do: 1. File your appeal through eServices immediately - do this before anything else 2. Request your complete claim file from ESD (this will show what your employer claimed) 3. Get a copy of your separation notice or termination letter 4. Look through your employee handbook for the company's definition of misconduct 5. Gather any performance reviews that show you were in good standing 6. Get statements from coworkers if possible The burden of proof is on your employer to prove misconduct, not on you to disprove it. In my hearing, the judge was very fair and my former employer couldn't provide specific evidence of policy violations, so I won.

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Evan Kalinowski

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This is incredibly helpful, thank you! I'm going to start gathering everything today. I'm pretty sure they reported me as quitting when actually they eliminated my position. Would text messages with my direct supervisor help my case?

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Lauren Zeb

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My sister actually works at one of those resturants and shes says they fire people all the time then tell unemployment they quit so they dont have to pay higher rates. its ILLEGAL but they do it anyways. fight this!!!

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When you go to appeal make sure you request a TELEPHONE hearing not an in-person one! The judges are much more lenient over the phone in my experience. Also when they give you the hearing date make absolutely sure you're available that day because if you miss it you automatically lose.

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Ryan Andre

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This isn't entirely accurate. The hearing format doesn't affect the outcome - the same standards are applied by OAH judges regardless of telephone or in-person hearings. Missing the hearing is definitely bad, but you can request a new hearing within 10 days if you had good cause for missing it. The most important factor is having documentation that contradicts the employer's misconduct claim.

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Jasmine Quinn

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To answer your earlier question - yes, text messages between you and your assistant manager could be valuable evidence, especially if they acknowledge you were being let go rather than quitting. Make screenshots and prepare to submit them with your appeal. Any written communication that supports your version of events is helpful. Also, when you file your appeal, be very clear about requesting a copy of your employer's response to ESD. You have the right to see what they claimed about your separation. Sometimes employers tell employees one thing and then report something completely different to ESD to avoid increases in their unemployment insurance rates.

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Evan Kalinowski

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I just filed my appeal online and requested all the documentation! Fingers crossed this works out. I'm still worried about how long this will take to resolve. The notice says interest will start accruing in 30 days even if I appeal.

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WARNING to everyone reading this - if you lose your appeal, ESD can take your tax refund, garnish your wages, and even put liens on property!!! happened to my cousin last yr and it was a NIGHTMARE. def take this seriously!!!!

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Ryan Andre

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During the appeal process, you can request a "stay" on collections, which will prevent them from adding interest or taking collection actions while your case is being decided. There's a specific form for this on the ESD website under "Benefit Payment Control." Also, make sure you continue to carefully document all communication with your former employer. If they reach out to you about this matter, keep records of everything. Sometimes employers will try to get you to admit to something that could hurt your case. In my experience, these appeals typically take 6-10 weeks to resolve, so prepare for a bit of a wait. The hearing itself usually only lasts about an hour.

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Evan Kalinowski

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Thanks again. Just found and submitted the stay request form. One last question - should I still be applying for jobs and reporting work search activities while this is going on? I got a part-time job recently but it's not enough hours to live on.

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Jasmine Quinn

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Yes, if you're still claiming benefits you absolutely must continue your job search activities (3 per week) and report them accurately. Your current appeal situation doesn't change your ongoing eligibility requirements. Make sure you report your part-time work and earnings correctly too - mistakes there could lead to additional issues. Also, while waiting for your appeal, it's a good idea to check your eServices account regularly. Sometimes important notices are only posted there and not mailed.

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Evan Kalinowski

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Got it. I think I have everything I need to handle this now. I'll update this thread once I hear back from ESD or get a hearing date. Thanks everyone for the advice!

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