ESD disqualified me due to a 2018 training benefits form I never completed - appeal or submit late?
I'm in a total mess with ESD right now. Just got disqualified after being let go for 'not meeting performance standards' at my manufacturing job. When I looked into why I was disqualified, it turns out there's an outstanding issue from 2018! Apparently I never responded to a training benefits verification form they sent me. Some context: I was approved for Commissioner Approved Training back in 2017, completed my healthcare administration degree in 2020. The thing is, by 2018 my UI benefits were completely EXHAUSTED and I wasn't receiving anything anymore, so I didn't think I needed to fill out this form asking if I was 'still in school.' Now this old paperwork is coming back to bite me in 2025! Has anyone dealt with this? Should I just fill out the ancient form and submit it now (even though it's asking about a training program I completed 5 years ago)? Or should I file an appeal? The form wants a signature from my 'training coordinator' from SIX YEARS ago - I don't even remember who that was! This feels ridiculous.
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Daniel Price
Ughhh ESD and their paperwork nightmares. they looove holding stuff from years ago against you. I'd file an appeal AND submit the form. Cover all your bases. The appeal deadline is super strict (30 days I think??) so don't miss that first.
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Caleb Stone
•Thanks for the advice! I'll get on the appeal right away then. Do you know if there's a specific form for appeals or do I just write a letter explaining the situation?
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Olivia Evans
You should definitely file an appeal immediately. The issue here is that your previous training benefits approval might be affecting your current claim. When you were approved for Commissioner Approved Training, you received a waiver from certain UI requirements (like having to look for work while in school). If ESD believes you didn't complete the program or didn't follow through with verification, they might be applying that against your current eligibility. For the training coordinator signature, contact the school you attended and ask for documentation showing you completed the program in 2020. Submit that with your appeal along with an explanation that your benefits were exhausted when the 2018 verification form was sent, so you didn't believe a response was necessary. The appeal must be filed within 30 days of the disqualification notice.
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Caleb Stone
•This makes so much sense now! I never connected that my old training approval could affect a completely new claim years later. I'll definitely get documentation from my college showing I completed the degree program. Should I still try to fill out that old form too, or just focus on the appeal with the completion documentation?
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Sophia Bennett
I had something similar happen but with a job search requirement form from 2019. Definitely appeal AND submit the old form with an explanation letter attached. For the coordinator signature, I just wrote "No longer available - program completed in 2020" and attached my degree/transcript as proof of completion. ESD eventually approved my claim after a hearing, but it took about 7 weeks total. During that time, keep filing your weekly claims even though they'll show as disqualified.
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Caleb Stone
•7 weeks! That's a long time to wait without benefits. I'm already worried about making rent next month. Did you have to attend an actual hearing or was it all handled through documentation?
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Aiden Chen
you might be overthinking this? if u already got ur degree and finished the program, just get a copy of ur transcript and degree and send that in with the appeal form. they cant expect u to track down some random coordinator from 6 yrs ago lol. the system is so broken rn with all these technical issues
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Zoey Bianchi
•Systems not broken, it's working exactly as they want it to. Make it nearly impossible to get benefits so people give up trying.
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Olivia Evans
Something important to add - while you're waiting for the appeal process, you should still continue filing your weekly claims even though they'll show as disqualified. If you win your appeal, they'll pay those weeks retroactively, but only if you've filed for them. Also, make sure to clearly explain in your appeal that you had already exhausted benefits in 2018 when the form was requested, which is why you didn't complete it at that time.
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Caleb Stone
•That's really helpful, I wouldn't have thought to keep filing! I'll make sure to do that. Is there anything specific I should put in the "job search activities" section during this appeal period?
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Caleb Stone
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Aurora St.Pierre
Am I the only one who thinks its CRAZY that they can deny you in 2025 for a form from 2018?? How are we supposed to remember every piece of paper from 6+ years ago??
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Zoey Bianchi
•Nope, you're not alone. The whole system is designed to find ANY reason to deny benefits. They hope people will just give up instead of appeal. I had a similar situation and spent 3 months fighting it. Keep ALL your ESD paperwork forever folks!
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Sophia Bennett
Make sure you're super clear on your appeal form about why this is wrong. When I had my hearing with the Administrative Law Judge, they specifically asked why I didn't respond to the original notice years ago. Have your answer ready - in your case, that your benefits were exhausted so you reasonably believed no response was needed. Also keep in mind that for the current disqualification, you'll need to address the performance standards issue separately. That's often a difficult basis for approval unless you can show it wasn't your fault or there were mitigating circumstances. The old paperwork issue might be resolved, but you'll still need to overcome the performance-based termination.
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Caleb Stone
•That's a really good point about the performance standards issue. The metrics they used were only introduced 2 weeks before I was let go, and nobody in my department was hitting them. I have emails showing that. Should I include those in my appeal too?
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Olivia Evans
Absolutely include those emails about the new metrics! That's exactly the kind of evidence that can help overcome a performance-based disqualification. If you can show the standards were unreasonable or that you weren't given adequate time/training to meet them, you have a much stronger case. For the appeal process, submit both issues: 1) The training benefits form from 2018 was not responded to because benefits were exhausted, and 2) The performance standards that led to your termination were newly implemented with insufficient time to adapt. Make copies of EVERYTHING before you send it in.
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Caleb Stone
•I can definitely show that. We got an email on March 2nd with the new metrics and I was let go on March 18th. Nobody received training on the new system either. I'll make sure to document all of this clearly. Thanks for all your help!
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