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ESD denied me after quitting during layoff process - toxic workplace defense?

Anyone successfully get UI benefits after quitting during a scheduled layoff? My situation is complicated and I'm freaking out about my adjudication. My employer announced back in January they're relocating out of state by June 2025 and I'd be laid off then. I started job hunting but during the transition they basically made my job IMPOSSIBLE to do - withholding information, changing procedures daily, blocking access to necessary systems. Last month I couldn't take it anymore and gave notice, even though I was already scheduled for layoff. The day after giving notice, both managers completely stonewalled me - wouldn't speak to me, answer emails, or provide work direction. The hostility was unbearable so I emailed that night saying I wouldn't return and explained why. Filed for UI immediately and got stuck in adjudication. I've submitted ALL documentation - the original layoff notice, emails showing work obstruction, texts about the hostile environment, everything! Called yesterday and got my claim expedited through the governor's office, expecting adjudicator to call tomorrow. I'm terrified they'll just see "quit" and deny me automatically without considering I was being laid off anyway AND the toxic environment. Has anyone quit during a pending layoff and still received benefits? What documentation convinced them? I've NEVER quit a job before and wouldn't have if they hadn't made it completely unbearable.

Liam O'Sullivan

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Your situation definitely falls under constructive discharge which ESD recognizes as a valid reason to quit! The key is proving the work environment became so intolerable that any reasonable person would quit. The fact that you were already scheduled for layoff actually strengthens your case significantly. Make sure your adjudicator understands: 1. You were already being laid off (provide the written notice) 2. The specific ways your employer prevented you from doing your job 3. The hostile environment after giving notice When the adjudicator calls, calmly explain the timeline and be specific about the work obstruction. Don't just say it was "hostile" - describe exactly what they did (stonewalling, withholding information, etc). I went through something similar last year when my company was closing our department and my manager started giving me impossible deadlines before the official layoff date. I quit early and still got approved because I documented everything thoroughly.

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Mei Chen

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Thank you SO MUCH for this info! I hadn't heard of "constructive discharge" before but that's EXACTLY what happened. I've documented everything meticulously - thankfully I saved all the emails where they kept changing procedures without telling me and texts where they ignored my questions about work tasks. Do you think it matters that I put in my notice first before they created the hostile environment? That's the part that worries me most - that they'll say I quit first.

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Amara Okonkwo

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Hate to be the bearer of bad news but ESD almost ALWAYS denies benefits when u quit no matter what. i went thru this exact thing in 2023, company was closing my store and i was gettin laid off in 3 months but manager started scheduling me for crazy split shifts she knew i couldnt work with my kids school schedule. quit after 2 weeks of that BS and got denied even with the layoff notice. had to appeal and wait 3 more months with no money coming in. The system is designed to screw workers!!!! good luck

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Giovanni Marino

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This isn't entirely accurate. While quitting does create an additional hurdle, ESD absolutely does approve benefits when there's a valid reason to quit. Constructive discharge (where the employer makes working conditions intolerable) and quitting during a pending layoff are both scenarios where benefits are often approved IF properly documented. The key is having evidence and being prepared to clearly explain the situation during the adjudication interview. Yes, sometimes you have to appeal, but that doesn't mean automatic denial is the rule.

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Fatima Al-Sayed

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just went thru something similar last month!!! got approved but it took FOREVER. my trick was calling ESD literally 47 times until I got through. have u been able to actually talk to anyone there yet?

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Mei Chen

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OMG 47 times?? That's insane! I've tried calling about 12-15 times and always get the "high call volume" message then it hangs up. I haven't been able to speak to a real person yet - that's why I called the governor's office yesterday. They said they would expedite my claim and I should get a call "soon" but who knows what that means. How long did your adjudication take in total?

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Dylan Hughes

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If you're struggling to get through to ESD, you might want to try Claimyr. I was in adjudication for weeks and couldn't get past the busy signals. Claimyr connected me to an ESD agent in about 20 minutes after I'd been trying for days on my own. They have a video showing how it works here: https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ?si=26TzE_zGms-DODN3 My claim was in adjudication for a situation somewhat similar to yours - I had reduced hours before an official layoff and quit early. Being able to actually speak to someone made all the difference in getting it resolved. Especially since you already have your documentation together, you just need someone to actually look at it.

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Mei Chen

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Thank you for the tip! I just watched the video and this looks so helpful. If I don't hear from an adjudicator by Friday I'll definitely try this. Waiting in this limbo is driving me crazy, especially since I know I have all the documentation they need to make a decision. I just need someone to LOOK at it!

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NightOwl42

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theres a box u can check on ur weekly claim where it asks if u contacted ur previous employer about returning to work... DONT CHECK IT or ull get flagged for more adjudication!!! learned this the hard way

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Liam O'Sullivan

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This is incorrect information. You should answer all weekly claim questions honestly. If you didn't contact your former employer about returning to work, then don't check the box. But deliberately answering questions incorrectly can result in an overpayment determination later, which would require you to pay back benefits plus possible penalties. Always answer weekly claim questions truthfully.

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Sofia Rodriguez

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My situation wasn't exactly the same, but I did have a constructive discharge case approved last year. The key thing that helped me was having a clear TIMELINE of events. Don't just dump all your evidence on them - organize it chronologically and highlight the specific incidents that made continuing work impossible. Also, in your adjudication interview, stick to FACTS not emotions. Instead of "they were mean" say "On March 15, I emailed asking for access to the client database and received no response for 3 days, making it impossible to complete the Johnson project." Based on what you've shared, you have a strong case since: 1. You were already being laid off (not your choice to separate) 2. You have documentation of how they prevented you from doing your job 3. The hostility increased after you gave notice Good luck! It's stressful but hang in there!

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Mei Chen

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This is SUPER helpful advice - thank you! I'm definitely going to organize my evidence chronologically before the call. You're right that I need to stick to specific facts. I have dates and specifics for when they: 1) Announced the relocation/layoff, 2) Started withholding work information, 3) Removed my access to client files, 4) Stopped responding to work questions, and 5) The complete stonewalling after I gave notice. I'll focus on these facts rather than just saying it was "hostile" or "toxic."

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Dmitry Ivanov

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The fact that you were already being laid off is CRUCIAL information that should work in your favor. Don't let anyone tell you differently. When I worked for ESD (years ago), we handled cases like yours differently than standard voluntary quits. The adjudicator will want to understand: 1. Was the layoff definitely happening? (sounds like yes) 2. Was the date firmly established? (you said May/June) 3. Did working conditions deteriorate after the layoff announcement? (sounds like yes) 4. Do you have evidence of the deterioration? (sounds like yes) The only potential issue I see is that you gave notice first before they created the hostile environment. However, the fact that you were already being laid off means you weren't quitting to avoid work - you were merely adjusting the timing of an inevitable separation. Be sure to continue filing your weekly claims during adjudication, and answer everything truthfully. And be prepared for the possibility that even if denied initially, you have strong grounds for appeal.

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Mei Chen

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Thank you so much for your insider perspective! Yes, the layoff was definitely happening - I have emails from January confirming the office relocation to Arizona and that I wouldn't be offered relocation. You're right that the notice thing might be tricky, but I can explain that I gave notice because they were already making my job impossible (withholding information, etc.) BEFORE I gave notice. The complete stonewalling just happened after. I've been filing my weekly claims religiously and being 100% truthful. Fingers crossed I don't have to go through the appeal process!

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Fatima Al-Sayed

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forgot to answer ur question about how long adjudication took... mine was 6 WEEKS!!! total nightmare. and yeah the calling thing is brutal. i literally had to set aside a whole day just for calling over and over

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Mei Chen

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SIX WEEKS?? OMG I'm already at 5 weeks and going crazy. How did you manage financially during that time? I'm really hoping the expedite request through the governor's office helps speed things up because my savings are almost gone at this point.

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Amara Okonkwo

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whatever u do DONT tell them u found another job if u haven't started yet!!! my friend did that and they immediately closed her claim even tho she didn't start for another month!

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Giovanni Marino

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Once again, providing incorrect information to ESD is never advisable. If you've accepted a job offer with a future start date, you should report that during your weekly claims. You remain eligible for benefits until you actually start working and earning wages. Withholding information from ESD can result in an overpayment determination and potential penalties.

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