ESD adjudication after quitting twice - sick child and part-time return complications
I'm completely stuck in this weird unemployment situation and don't know if I'll qualify anymore. I originally quit my full-time warehouse job (went into adjudication) but then my manager called asking me to come back part-time. I agreed thinking I could balance it, but I'm only getting 16hrs a week now. My daughter has serious health issues requiring constant care, and I just can't maintain this schedule while looking for better work and being her caretaker. I've already used up all my Paid Medical Family Leave. I reported the 16hrs on my weekly claim but I'm probably going to have to quit again because I need a swing shift position that can accommodate my caregiving schedule. It'll be at least a month before I can work normal hours again. I've messaged ESD and called multiple times but can't get through to anyone. Will quitting a second time completely disqualify me? Does anyone know if having a sick child counts as 'good cause' in this situation?
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Giovanni Mancini
This is a tricky situation but let me try to help. When you quit for caregiving reasons, ESD may consider this "good cause" if you can document that you had no reasonable alternatives. Since you've already exhausted your PFML benefits, that actually strengthens your case. The key is documenting everything - your daughter's medical condition (doctor's notes), your work schedule conflicts, and proof you tried to work with your employer on accommodations before quitting. Also, make sure you're applying for jobs that actually fit your needed schedule - otherwise ESD might claim you're not truly available for work. What's happening with the original adjudication from your first quit?
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Amara Nnamani
•Thank you! The original adjudication is still pending after 3 weeks. I went back part-time before they made any decision. Should I just keep filing weekly claims while I figure this out? I really need something that pays more anyway - 16 hours isn't enough to live on.
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NebulaNinja
Omg ESD is a NIGHTMARE to deal with!!! I had something similar happen (not exact same but also had to quit) and they kept me in adjudication for like 7 WEEKS before denying me. Then I appealed and waited ANOTHER month. The whole time I couldn't get ANYONE on the phone. It's like they purposely make it impossible to talk to a human!!!
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Amara Nnamani
•7 weeks??? I can't wait that long! Did you ever successfully get through to someone on the phone? What number worked for you?
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Fatima Al-Suwaidi
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NebulaNinja
•Does this actually work?? I've never heard of it before but man I'd try ANYTHING at this point
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Dylan Mitchell
youre gonna need to update ur claim ASAP with all this new info. if u quit again before the first adjudication is even decided, it might reset the whole process. def dont just stop showing up to the part time job, that would be worse. have u tried asking your employer for different hours that would work better with ur daughters schedule? ESD will ask if u tried to resolve the problem before quitting.
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Amara Nnamani
•I did ask about different hours but since they're a warehouse they only operate 7am-6pm Monday-Friday. They don't have evening shifts which is what I need now with my daughter's treatment schedule.
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Sofia Morales
I'd like to clarify a couple points that might help with your situation: 1. For the original adjudication: The fact that you returned to work (even part-time) with the same employer might actually resolve that first adjudication favorably. 2. For quitting again: Washington state specifically recognizes caregiving responsibilities as potential good cause for quitting when: - Care is for an immediate family member - The medical need is documented - You've explored all reasonable alternatives 3. Weekly claims: Absolutely continue filing weekly claims during this entire process, claiming the hours you work while you're still employed. 4. Documentation: Get a detailed letter from your daughter's doctor specifically explaining why your presence is required during specific hours. 5. Work search: Focus on applying for jobs that match your availability constraints, and document why each job would accommodate your caregiving needs. When you do reach ESD, ask specifically about applying for "Standby" status based on your temporary caregiving situation. This might waive job search requirements for up to 12 weeks if approved.
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Amara Nnamani
•Thank you for this detailed information! I didn't know about the Standby option - that would be perfect since this is a temporary situation. Do you know if I need to submit the standby request before quitting my current part-time position?
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Dmitry Popov
when i had to quit my job last year to care for my mom, i made sure to tell my boss in writing (email) exactly why i was leaving and kept their response. esd asked for that during adjudication. also my mom's doctor wrote a letter saying she needed full-time care. make sure u have everything in writing!!!!
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Amara Nnamani
•That's really smart - I'll make sure to email my resignation rather than just telling my manager verbally. Did you end up qualifying for benefits after quitting to care for your mom?
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Sofia Morales
To answer your follow-up question about Standby status: Ideally, you should apply for Standby before quitting your part-time job. However, since your situation involves caregiving, you can still apply after leaving employment. The key requirements for Standby approval are: 1. You must have a definite return date (when your daughter's condition will allow you to work full-time again) 2. Medical documentation supporting the temporary nature of your limitations 3. Proof that you're otherwise able and available for suitable work that accommodates your constraints What makes your case complex is the double-quit situation. I'd strongly recommend getting through to an ESD representative before making any decisions about leaving your current part-time position. They may be able to provide guidance specific to your situation that prevents further complications.
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Fatima Al-Suwaidi
•This is excellent advice. Standby status would be perfect for this situation, but definitely try to speak with ESD first. That's where using something like Claimyr could really help - getting actual guidance before making another employment change could save weeks of additional adjudication time.
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Ava Garcia
I don't think anyone mentioned this, but you should know there's a difference between quitting and taking an approved leave of absence. Have you asked your employer if you can take a temporary leave instead of quitting entirely? That might look better to ESD than quitting twice in a row.
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Amara Nnamani
•That's a good point - I hadn't thought about asking for a formal leave of absence. My workplace is pretty small (only about 30 employees) so I wasn't sure if they'd be required to offer that, but it's worth asking about!
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NebulaNinja
just to share my experience - my claim was denied because I quit "voluntarily" even though it was for childcare. ESD said I should have "explored all other options" first. The appeal took FOREVER and I still got denied! The system is totally rigged against parents who need to care for sick kids!!!! Ugh so frustrating.
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Giovanni Mancini
•That's unfortunate about your claim. For others reading: when quitting for caregiving, ESD requires documentation that you explored ALL alternatives - like asking for schedule changes, taking leave, finding alternative care, etc. It's not enough to just say you needed to care for your child - you have to prove there were no other options. Document every conversation and alternative you explored.
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Amara Nnamani
Update: I tried the Claimyr service mentioned above and actually got through to ESD! The agent said I should formally request accommodation from my employer in writing first (asking for a temporary leave or shift change) and keep their response. She said I should continue working part-time while the first adjudication resolves if possible. If I absolutely need to quit, I should get detailed medical documentation showing why my daughter needs care during my current work hours specifically. She also suggested applying for Standby status with a specific return-to-work date when my daughter's treatment schedule changes. Thanks everyone for your help!
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Sofia Morales
•This is excellent news! The agent gave you perfect advice. Having that formal accommodation request (and likely denial) documented will significantly strengthen your case. Make sure to follow through with the medical documentation as well - be specific about the hours care is needed and why alternative care isn't possible. Glad you were able to get through and get solid guidance!
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