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Amelia Martinez

Does unemployment affect getting mortgage - Washington ESD benefits count as income?

I'm currently collecting unemployment through Washington ESD and have been for about 4 months now. My benefits run out in 8 weeks and I'm wondering if I can use my UI payments as income when applying for a mortgage? I've been getting $742 weekly and have all my payment history documented. My credit score is decent (around 680) but I'm worried lenders won't count unemployment as stable income. Has anyone here successfully gotten a mortgage while on Washington ESD benefits? What documentation did you need to provide?

Most lenders won't accept unemployment income for mortgage qualification because it's considered temporary income. They typically require 2 years of stable employment history and expect you to continue receiving that income for at least 3 years after the mortgage closes. Since Washington ESD benefits have a maximum duration, this creates a problem for underwriters.

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That's what I was afraid of. So even though I have steady payments coming in right now, they won't count it?

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Exactly. The key word is 'continuity' - lenders need to verify that your income source will continue beyond the loan term.

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You might have better luck with an FHA loan or VA loan if you qualify. Some government-backed programs have more flexible income requirements, but you'll still need to show employment prospects or have other income sources.

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I am a veteran actually. Do you know if VA loans specifically allow unemployment income?

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VA loans are more flexible but they still want to see stable income. Your best bet would be to get a job offer letter or start working before applying.

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I was in a similar situation last year when I was dealing with Washington ESD adjudication delays and couldn't get through to anyone for weeks to resolve my claim status. If you're having trouble reaching them about your benefit continuation or job search requirements, I found this service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that actually gets you through to Washington ESD agents. They have a demo video at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works. Might help if you need to discuss extending benefits or clarifying your claim status for the mortgage application.

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Thanks, I'll check that out. I do need to talk to someone about my job search log requirements anyway.

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Never heard of that service but anything that helps with Washington ESD phone lines sounds useful. Those wait times are brutal.

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Wait, I thought unemployment benefits were taxable income? Doesn't that mean they should count toward your income calculation for loans?

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Being taxable doesn't make it acceptable to lenders. Child support is taxable too but has different lending rules. It's about income stability and duration.

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Oh that makes sense. So it's not about the money itself but whether you'll keep getting it.

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I work for a credit union and can tell you that we occasionally accept unemployment income BUT only if it's combined with other stable income sources and the borrower has a solid employment history. A few things that help: job offer letters, skills training completion certificates, or proof of active job searching with interviews lined up.

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I am actively job searching and have had several interviews. One company said they're making a decision next week. Would a job offer letter be enough even if I haven't started yet?

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A solid job offer letter with start date and salary can definitely work! Most lenders will accept that as future income verification.

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This is really helpful info. I'm in a similar boat and didn't know job offer letters could work.

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Have you considered waiting until you're employed again? I know it's frustrating but mortgage rates might be better in a few months anyway, and you'll have a much easier time qualifying.

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The house I want might not be available in a few months though. It's been on the market for a while and the price is good.

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I get that, but qualifying for a mortgage while unemployed is really tough. Maybe look into rent-to-own options?

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What about using a co-signer? If you have family with good income and credit, that might be an option to get around the unemployment income issue.

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My parents might be willing to co-sign but I'd prefer not to involve them if possible.

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Totally understand. It's just another avenue to consider if nothing else works out.

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The mortgage industry is still pretty conservative after 2008. They want to see W-2s and steady paystubs. Unemployment benefits, even though they're legitimate income, just don't fit their risk models.

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This is so frustrating. You pay taxes on unemployment but can't use it for anything important.

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I know, the system doesn't always make sense from a practical standpoint.

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Are you getting the full Washington ESD benefit amount? I thought the maximum was higher than $742 per week. Just wondering if you're missing out on money that could help your situation.

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I think $742 is what I qualified for based on my previous earnings. The maximum changes each year but I'm getting what I'm entitled to.

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Good, just wanted to make sure you weren't leaving money on the table.

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Some smaller local banks or credit unions might be more flexible than big national lenders. They can sometimes make exceptions for good customers with strong credit and down payments.

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That's a good idea. I should try some local places instead of just the big banks.

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Definitely worth a shot. Community banks often have more discretion in their lending decisions.

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Agreed on this. My local credit union approved me when Wells Fargo wouldn't, though I wasn't unemployed at the time.

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Just a thought - if you do get that job offer you mentioned, you could potentially get pre-approved based on the offer letter and then have some time to find a house before you actually start working.

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How much time do pre-approvals usually give you? I'd want to make sure I have enough time to find something good.

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Usually 60-90 days, but it varies by lender. Some will extend if needed.

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Another update on reaching Washington ESD - I used that Claimyr service again last week when I needed to update my job search activities and it worked great. Got through to someone in about 10 minutes instead of the usual hours of calling. Might be worth it if you need to clarify anything about your benefits for the mortgage application.

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How much does that service cost? I've been trying to reach Washington ESD for days about my weekly claim.

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I don't remember the exact cost but it was reasonable considering how much time it saved me. Check their website for current pricing.

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Have you looked into asset-based lending? If you have significant savings or investments, some lenders will consider those instead of traditional income verification.

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I have some savings but probably not enough for asset-based lending. That usually requires pretty substantial assets doesn't it?

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Yes, typically they want to see 2-3 years worth of mortgage payments in liquid assets. But worth exploring if you have more saved than you think.

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Don't forget about state and local first-time homebuyer programs. Some of them have different income requirements or provide down payment assistance that could help your situation.

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Good point, I should look into Washington state programs specifically.

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Washington Housing Finance Commission has several programs worth checking out.

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This whole situation shows how outdated lending requirements are. Unemployment benefits are guaranteed government payments, more reliable than some jobs, but lenders treat them like they're nothing.

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Right? I get more consistent payments from Washington ESD than I did from my last employer who was always late with paychecks.

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Exactly! But banks don't see it that way unfortunately.

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One more suggestion - have you talked to a mortgage broker instead of going directly to banks? Brokers work with multiple lenders and might know which ones are more flexible with unemployment income.

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No I haven't tried a broker yet. Do they charge fees or do they get paid by the lenders?

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Usually paid by the lenders, though some charge origination fees. Worth getting quotes from a few to compare.

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Keep us updated on how it goes! I'm in a similar situation and would love to know what ends up working for you.

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Will do! I'm going to try the local credit union approach first and see about that job offer this week.

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Good luck! Fingers crossed for the job offer.

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Just want to add that if you do get approved somewhere, make sure you understand all the terms. Some lenders that approve difficult cases charge higher rates or fees.

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Good advice. I'll definitely read everything carefully and compare multiple offers if I get them.

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Smart approach. Don't just jump at the first approval you get.

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I had a friend who got approved while on unemployment but had to put down 25% instead of the usual 10-20%. Higher down payment sometimes makes lenders more comfortable with riskier income situations.

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I could potentially do 25% down if that's what it takes. Good to know that's an option.

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Yeah, it shows you have skin in the game and reduces their risk. Might be worth mentioning when you apply.

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Has anyone mentioned looking into seller financing? If the seller owns the house outright, they might be willing to act as the bank and finance it themselves.

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That's an interesting idea. How would I find out if a seller would be open to that?

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Your real estate agent can help with that. It's not common but some sellers, especially older ones, are open to it for the steady income stream.

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