Can you collect unemployment for being fired in Washington state?
My supervisor terminated me last Friday for what they called 'performance issues' but I think it was really because I questioned some of their accounting practices. I've been with the company for almost 3 years and never had any write-ups until this month. Can I still file for Washington ESD unemployment benefits even though I was fired? I'm worried they'll deny my claim since it wasn't a layoff. Has anyone successfully gotten UI after being terminated?
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Zoe Christodoulou
Yes, you can absolutely collect unemployment if you were fired, but it depends on the reason. Washington ESD looks at whether it was 'misconduct' or not. Poor performance usually isn't considered misconduct unless it was willful. You should definitely file your claim right away since there's a waiting period.
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Andre Moreau
That's good to know! What exactly counts as misconduct? I was never warned that my job was in jeopardy.
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Zoe Christodoulou
Misconduct is things like stealing, violence, being drunk at work, or deliberately violating company policy. Performance issues or disagreeing with management usually doesn't qualify as misconduct.
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Jamal Thompson
File immediately! Even if your employer contests it, you have the right to appeal. I was fired for 'attitude problems' last year and still got approved after providing my side of the story during the adjudication process.
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Andre Moreau
How long did the adjudication take? I'm worried about paying rent while this gets sorted out.
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Jamal Thompson
Mine took about 6 weeks, but if you're approved you get back pay for all those weeks. The key is filing right away so your claim date starts immediately.
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Mei Chen
I tried calling Washington ESD to ask about this same situation but could never get through to anyone. The phone system is impossible. Has anyone found a better way to actually talk to someone there?
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CosmicCadet
I found this service called Claimyr that helps you get through to Washington ESD agents. They basically handle the calling for you since the lines are always busy. Check out claimyr.com - they have a demo video at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works.
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Mei Chen
Never heard of that but I'm desperate at this point. The hold times are ridiculous.
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Andre Moreau
Is it legit? I don't want to get scammed while I'm already stressed about money.
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CosmicCadet
Yeah it's legitimate. They don't ask for personal info upfront and you only pay if they actually connect you. Way better than wasting hours on hold.
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Liam O'Connor
ALWAYS file even if you think you might get denied!!! The worst they can say is no, but you might be surprised. I got fired for being late too many times and still got benefits because my employer couldn't prove it was willful misconduct.
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Andre Moreau
That makes me feel better. I really think they fired me unfairly but wasn't sure if that mattered to Washington ESD.
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Amara Adeyemi
Being fired unfairly and being eligible for UI are two different things though. The state only cares if it was misconduct, not if it was fair.
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Giovanni Gallo
Same thing happened to my brother - fired for 'performance' after 4 years with no issues. He got approved but his employer appealed and they had to do a phone hearing. He still won because they couldn't prove misconduct.
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Andre Moreau
How did the phone hearing go? That sounds intimidating.
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Giovanni Gallo
He said it was pretty straightforward. Just had to explain his side and answer questions. Having documentation helped a lot.
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Andre Moreau
I wish I had kept better records of what happened. I do have some emails though.
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Jamal Thompson
Start documenting everything you remember NOW while it's fresh. Write down dates, who was present, what was said. If this goes to adjudication or appeal, details matter.
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Andre Moreau
Good advice, I'll start writing everything down tonight. Thank you!
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Fatima Al-Mazrouei
Whatever you do, don't quit another job to avoid getting fired if this happens again. I made that mistake and it hurt my claim because quitting is usually worse than being fired when it comes to UI eligibility.
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Andre Moreau
I didn't know that! Good to keep in mind for the future, though hopefully this doesn't happen again.
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Zoe Christodoulou
Right, quitting is usually disqualifying unless you have good cause like unsafe working conditions or harassment.
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Dylan Wright
File online at esd.wa.gov as soon as possible. Don't wait thinking about it - your benefit year starts when you file, not when you were fired.
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Andre Moreau
I'll do it tonight. Thanks for the website reminder.
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Mei Chen
Update: I tried that Claimyr thing and actually got through to someone at Washington ESD today! They were able to check my claim status and explain the adjudication process. Definitely worth it if you need to talk to someone quickly.
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Andre Moreau
That's great to hear! How long did it take them to connect you?
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Mei Chen
They called me back within a few hours and had me connected to an actual Washington ESD rep within about 10 minutes. Way better than trying to call myself.
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NebulaKnight
Been through this twice unfortunately. First time I was denied initially but won on appeal. Second time I was approved right away. It really depends on how your employer reports the termination reason.
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Andre Moreau
What did your employer say the first time that got you denied?
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NebulaKnight
They claimed I violated company policy, but during the appeal I showed that other employees did the same thing with no consequences. Proved it wasn't applied consistently.
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Sofia Ramirez
just file already! ur overthinking this. worst case scenario u get denied and then u appeal. best case u get money while looking for work
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Andre Moreau
You're right, I need to just do it. Thanks for the push!
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Zoe Christodoulou
One more thing - make sure you're actively looking for work and documenting your job search activities. Washington ESD requires this even during adjudication periods. You'll need to show at least 3 job search activities per week.
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Andre Moreau
I've already started applying places. Do I need to keep a log or something?
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Zoe Christodoulou
Yes, keep detailed records of where you applied, when, and what type of contact you made. You can track this in your eServices account or keep your own log.
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Dmitry Popov
The system is so messed up. I got fired for missing work when my kid was sick and they still made me jump through hoops for weeks. But I eventually got approved so don't give up.
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Andre Moreau
That's frustrating but good to know it worked out in the end.
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Jamal Thompson
Missing work for sick family members is usually protected under FMLA or state sick leave laws. You might have had a wrongful termination case.
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Ava Rodriguez
File your weekly claims even if your initial claim is still being adjudicated. You won't get paid until it's approved, but you need to maintain your claim to get back pay for those weeks.
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Andre Moreau
Good point, I wouldn't have thought of that. How often do you file weekly claims?
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Ava Rodriguez
Every week, usually on Sunday. You can do it online through your eServices account. Don't skip weeks or you might lose eligibility for those periods.
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Miguel Ortiz
I'm going through something similar right now. Filed 3 weeks ago and still in adjudication. It's nerve-wracking but everyone here is right that you should file immediately regardless of the circumstances.
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Andre Moreau
Hope yours gets resolved soon! This waiting period is really stressful.
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CosmicCadet
If you need to check on your adjudication status, Claimyr can help you get through to ask about timeline. Sometimes they can tell you what additional info they need to speed things up.
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Zainab Khalil
whatever u do dont lie on ur application about why u were fired. they will find out and then u could get in trouble for fraud. just be honest and let them decide
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Andre Moreau
Definitely planning to be completely honest. Not worth the risk of making things worse.
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Zoe Christodoulou
Final advice: Washington ESD has improved their online systems a lot recently. You can file your claim, submit documents, and check status all through eServices. Much better than trying to do everything by phone.
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Andre Moreau
Perfect, I'll get started with the online filing tonight. Thank you everyone for all the helpful advice!
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QuantumQuest
Good luck! Remember that being fired doesn't automatically disqualify you. The burden is on your employer to prove misconduct, not on you to prove your innocence.
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Andre Moreau
That's reassuring to know. Feeling much more confident about filing now.
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Connor Murphy
Just want to echo what others said about Claimyr - used them last month when I couldn't get through about my overpayment issue. Really helpful for actually reaching a human at Washington ESD when you need answers quickly.
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Andre Moreau
Seems like a lot of people have had success with that service. Good to know it's an option if I need it.
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