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Ethan Brown

Can independent contractors get unemployment benefits through Washington ESD?

I've been working as a freelance graphic designer for the past 2 years, mostly 1099 work with a few different clients. My biggest client just cut their contract and I'm scrambling to find new work. A friend told me that independent contractors might be able to get unemployment now but I'm not sure if that's true in Washington state. I've never paid into unemployment insurance as a contractor. Does anyone know if Washington ESD covers independent contractors or self-employed people? I'm really stressed about how I'm going to pay rent next month.

Yuki Yamamoto

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Unfortunately, traditional unemployment insurance through Washington ESD is only for employees who had taxes withheld from their paychecks. Independent contractors and self-employed individuals typically don't qualify for regular UI benefits since they haven't been paying into the system.

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Ethan Brown

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That's what I was afraid of. So there's literally no safety net for contractors? That seems really unfair.

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Carmen Ruiz

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There used to be PUA during the pandemic but that ended a while ago. Now it's back to the old rules.

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Actually, Washington state has been working on expanding unemployment coverage but I'm not sure if it includes independent contractors yet. You might want to apply anyway just to see what happens - the worst they can do is deny you.

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Ethan Brown

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Good point, I'll probably try that. Do you know if there's a way to actually talk to someone at Washington ESD to ask about this?

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Zoe Dimitriou

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Getting through to Washington ESD by phone is nearly impossible. I tried calling for weeks about my regular claim and could never get through. You might have better luck with Claimyr - it's a service that helps you actually reach Washington ESD agents. Check out claimyr.com and they have a demo video at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works.

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QuantumQuest

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I was in a similar situation last year as a contractor. Washington ESD denied my initial application but told me to keep checking back because the rules might change. There's something called the Washington Cares Act that's supposed to help but I think that's more for family leave stuff.

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Ethan Brown

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Did you end up finding any other resources or assistance programs?

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QuantumQuest

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I applied for food assistance and looked into emergency rental help through the county. Also had to take some really low-paying gig work just to survive.

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Wait, are you sure you were actually an independent contractor? Some companies misclassify employees as contractors to avoid paying benefits. If you worked set hours, used their equipment, or they controlled how you did your work, you might actually be an employee.

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Ethan Brown

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Hmm, I mostly worked from home on my own schedule with my own computer, but they did give me pretty specific guidelines on projects. How would I know for sure?

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There's an IRS test for this - look up the 20-factor test or contact a labor attorney. If you were misclassified, you might be able to get unemployment and the employer could owe back taxes.

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Yuki Yamamoto

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This is actually a good point. Washington state has been cracking down on misclassification lately.

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Mei Zhang

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The unemployment system is so broken for people like us who don't have traditional jobs. I've been a rideshare driver for 3 years and when demand dropped I had zero options. Meanwhile my friend who got laid off from her office job gets $600 a week. It's ridiculous.

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Liam McGuire

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I feel you. The gig economy is huge now but the safety net hasn't caught up at all.

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Ethan Brown

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Exactly! So many people work contract jobs now, there should be some kind of system for us too.

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Zoe Dimitriou

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Have you looked into the Self-Employment Assistance Program? I'm not sure if Washington has one but some states do. It lets you collect unemployment while starting a business instead of job searching.

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Ethan Brown

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I haven't heard of that. How would I find out if Washington has that program?

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Zoe Dimitriou

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You'd need to contact Washington ESD directly. Like I mentioned before, Claimyr really helped me get through to an actual person when I needed answers about my claim. Saved me hours of calling.

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Carmen Ruiz

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Just to be clear - even if you can't get regular unemployment, you should still file your taxes properly as a contractor. You can deduct business expenses and if you owe self-employment tax that might actually help you qualify for other programs later.

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Ethan Brown

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Good point about the taxes. I've been keeping track of my expenses but I should probably talk to an accountant.

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Carmen Ruiz

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Definitely. And keep all your 1099s from this year - you'll need them if you ever do become eligible for benefits.

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Update: I just looked this up and Washington state did pass some legislation about portable benefits for gig workers but I don't think it's fully implemented yet. Might be worth keeping an eye on.

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Ethan Brown

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That's interesting. Do you remember what the legislation was called?

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I think it was related to the gig worker bills they passed a couple years ago but I'm not 100% sure on the details.

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Liam McGuire

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In the meantime, check with your city and county for emergency assistance programs. A lot of places have rental assistance and utility help that doesn't depend on employment status.

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Ethan Brown

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Thanks, I'll look into that. Every little bit helps right now.

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QuantumQuest

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Also consider reaching out to freelancer organizations or contractor groups in your area. They sometimes have resources or know about programs that aren't widely advertised.

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Ethan Brown

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That's a great idea. I should network more anyway for finding new clients.

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QuantumQuest

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Exactly! Sometimes the best opportunities come from other freelancers who have overflow work.

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Yuki Yamamoto

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One more thing - if you do apply for unemployment and get denied, make sure you understand the appeal process. Sometimes there are technicalities that can work in your favor, especially if there's any question about your employment classification.

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Ethan Brown

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How long do you have to appeal a decision?

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Yuki Yamamoto

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Usually 30 days from when you receive the determination letter. Don't wait if you think you have grounds for an appeal.

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I'm seeing more and more contractors in this situation. The whole employment landscape has changed but the benefits system is still stuck in the 1950s.

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Mei Zhang

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THIS. The system needs a complete overhaul for the modern workforce.

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Liam McGuire

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Hopefully the new legislation will start addressing some of these gaps.

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Zoe Dimitriou

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Just had another thought - if you're really struggling to get answers from Washington ESD about contractor eligibility, that Claimyr service I mentioned earlier might be your best bet. They specialize in getting you connected to actual ESD representatives who can give you definitive answers about your specific situation.

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Ethan Brown

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I'm definitely going to check that out. At this point I need to explore every option.

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Carmen Ruiz

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Yeah, getting a real person on the phone makes such a difference when you have complicated questions like this.

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Ethan Brown

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Thanks everyone for all the advice. I'm going to apply anyway just to see what happens, look into the misclassification angle, and research local assistance programs. Hopefully something will work out.

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Yuki Yamamoto

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Good luck! Keep us posted on how it goes.

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Rooting for you! The contractor life is tough but don't give up.

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Liam McGuire

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Hope you find some relief soon. This system really needs to catch up with reality.

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I'm a freelance writer who went through a similar situation last year. While traditional UI doesn't cover contractors, I found a few things that helped bridge the gap: 1) Applied for SNAP benefits (food stamps) - these don't require employment history, 2) Looked into local workforce development programs that sometimes offer emergency grants for self-employed individuals, and 3) Contacted 211 (dial 2-1-1) for a comprehensive list of assistance programs in your area. Also, don't overlook small business emergency loan programs - even as a freelancer, you might qualify for some relief options. The situation sucks, but there are more resources than you might think once you start digging.

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