Will my wife finally qualify for SS benefits since GPO/WEP was repealed? Married 40+ years with public pension
Just heard that Congress finally repealed the WEP and GPO! My wife retired as a public school teacher in 2018 after 32 years and gets her state pension (about $4,250/month). She also worked part-time retail jobs throughout her career and has 34 Social Security work credits of her own - not enough for her own benefit. When we checked about spousal benefits before (I get $2,880/month from Social Security), they told us she'd get absolutely NOTHING because of GPO. With this repeal, would she finally qualify for some spousal benefits based on my record? We've been married 42 years, so this seems only fair after all this time! The CTRA posted some info that said folks should apply if they never did before, but I'm confused if we need to do anything since we already tried once. Anyone gone through this process yet or know how SSA is handling these cases?
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Yuki Ito
Yes, your wife should definitely qualify now! The repeal means the GPO (Government Pension Offset) no longer eliminates spousal benefits for public pensioners. Before, GPO would reduce spousal benefits by 2/3 of her pension amount, which in her case would have wiped out any potential benefit. With 42 years of marriage and your substantial SS benefit, she could potentially receive up to 50% of your FRA benefit amount. The SSA announcement on January 6th said they're still figuring out implementation, but I'd recommend your wife contact SSA directly to ensure they know she previously applied and was denied due to GPO. While technically they should have this on record, it never hurts to be proactive with these things.
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Ethan Taylor
•Thank you! Do you have any idea how much she might receive? Would it be the full 50% of my benefit ($1,440) or some reduced amount? And any thoughts on how long this might take? I'm worried they'll take months to sort this out.
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Carmen Lopez
I'm in a similar situation as your wife (retired teacher) and I called SSA yesterday about this. The agent told me they are still waiting for specific guidance on implementation, but confirmed that those of us who already applied don't need to reapply. They have our info in their system and will automatically recalculate our benefits. What I would recommend is making sure SSA has your current contact info - address, phone number, and direct deposit info. You can update all that on the MySocialSecurity portal. As far as timelines, the agent couldn't give me specifics but said it might take "several months" to process everyone affected by this change. I've been waiting 15 years for this repeal, so a few more months isn't too bad!
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Ethan Taylor
•Thanks for sharing your experience! Several months seems reasonable considering how many people this affects. I'll make sure our contact info is updated.
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Andre Dupont
THIS IS A TOTAL GAME CHANGER FOR SO MANY OF US!! My husband was a firefighter for 27 years and I worked for our county school district. We've been SCREWED by GPO/WEP for years now. I paid into Social Security for 12 years before my public service but got NOTHING!!! Now we might finally get what we DESERVE! It's about TIME Congress did something right for once!!!
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QuantumQuasar
•I understand your frustration, but it's important to clarify that if you only have 12 years of SS contributions, you might not have the required 40 credits (10 years) of substantial earnings needed to qualify for your own retirement benefit. The WEP repeal helps those who have enough credits but were getting reduced benefits. For GPO, yes, you might now qualify for spousal benefits based on your husband's record if he receives SS. The implementation will take time though, so patience is needed while SSA works through all the cases.
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Zoe Papanikolaou
Wait, am I understanding this right? Does this mean I can get both my teacher's pension AND a social security benefit based on my husband's record now? I was always told I couldn't collect on his record because of my pension. Is this retroactive too?? I've been retired for 5 years and never even bothered applying for spousal benefits because everyone said it was pointless with GPO...
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Yuki Ito
•Yes, that's exactly what this change means. You can now receive both your teacher's pension AND potentially qualify for spousal benefits on your husband's record. However, the law is not retroactive - you won't receive back payments for the years before the repeal. But going forward, you should apply as soon as possible if you haven't already. The repeal is effective immediately, though SSA needs time to implement the changes to their systems.
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Jamal Wilson
my sister-in-law tried calling SS yesterday and was on hold for 3+ hours before giving up. everyone is calling about this GPO/WEP thing at once i guess! maybe wait a few weeks?
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Mei Lin
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QuantumQuasar
I work for a financial advisor who specializes in federal/state retirees, and we've been fielding questions about this all week. Here's what you need to know: 1. If your wife previously applied for spousal benefits and was denied due to GPO, SSA should have this on record and will eventually recalculate her benefit automatically. No new application needed. 2. For benefit amounts - she would potentially receive up to 50% of your PIA (Primary Insurance Amount), but this depends on when she claims relative to her own FRA (Full Retirement Age). If she's already past her FRA, she would get the full 50%. 3. Timeline - SSA hasn't provided any official timeline, but based on previous major policy changes, I'd estimate 3-6 months before payments begin, with the possibility of lump-sum retroactive payments to the January effective date. 4. This is a permanent legislative change, not an executive order or temporary policy, so these benefits are secure going forward. I recommend checking your MySocialSecurity account regularly for updates rather than calling repeatedly. SSA will be overwhelmed with inquiries for months.
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Ethan Taylor
•Thank you for this detailed information! My wife is 68 now (past her FRA), so it sounds like she should get the full 50% of my PIA. That would make a significant difference for us. One follow-up question: if she gets approved for spousal benefits, would she also be eligible for Medicare Part A without premiums? Currently she has to pay for Part A because she doesn't have enough SS credits of her own.
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QuantumQuasar
Regarding your Medicare question - unfortunately, eligibility for premium-free Part A is based on having 40 quarters of Medicare-covered employment (or being eligible for SS benefits based on your own work record). Receiving spousal benefits doesn't change her Medicare Part A premium status, so she would still need to pay for Part A. However, the additional income from spousal benefits could help offset those premium costs. And it's worth double-checking with SSA when they process her case, as sometimes rules around Medicare eligibility can be complex with edge cases I might not be aware of.
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Ethan Taylor
•Thanks for clarifying that. I was hoping it might help with the Medicare costs too, but the spousal benefit will still be very welcome!
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Carmen Lopez
Just following up - I called SSA again today after seeing a press release on their website. The agent told me they're prioritizing cases where people were previously denied due to GPO/WEP. They're starting with the most recent denials and working backward. Since your wife applied in 2018, she should be in one of the earlier batches to be processed. The agent suggested checking the MySocialSecurity portal weekly as that's where status updates will appear first.
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Ethan Taylor
•That's really helpful information! I'll start checking the portal weekly. Hoping we see some movement in the next month or two.
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Zoe Papanikolaou
Does anyone know if this repeal affects divorced spouses too? I was married for 15 years to my ex before we divorced, and he gets Social Security. I'm a retired teacher with a state pension and was told I couldn't get anything from his record because of GPO. Does that change now too?
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Yuki Ito
•Yes, the GPO repeal affects divorced spouses as well! As long as you were married for at least 10 years (which you were at 15 years), haven't remarried, and are at least 62, you can now potentially receive divorced spousal benefits without the GPO reduction. You should contact SSA to apply if you haven't already done so previously.
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Andre Dupont
I dont trust the goverment to do this right!! They'll find some way to screw us over again... happened to my sister who was a teacher for 35 yrs and they kept denying her benefits!! Everyone should CALL and DEMAND what their owed now that this stupid gpo is gone. Dont let them forget about your case!!
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Jamal Wilson
•i hear you, my dad waited 7 months for them to fix an error on his SSA record and it only got fixed after we contacted our congressman's office. might be worth doing that if they take too long with this GPO stuff too.
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