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Ian Armstrong

Will adding my SSDI/DAC son as joint bank account holder affect his benefits?

I've had a bank account in a trust for years, but I'm thinking about closing it and opening a regular joint account with my son (who receives SSDI under the Disabled Adult Child program) as co-owner. My thinking is that if something happens to me suddenly, he'd have immediate access to funds without going through probate or trust administration. I'm worried this might mess up his DAC benefits though - would adding him as a joint account holder count as a resource or income for his SSDI eligibility? Does anyone know if joint accounts are treated differently than trust accounts in terms of benefit eligibility? Thanks for any experience or advice!

Eli Butler

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my sister gets DAC benefits too and we've been through this. dont do it!! joint accounts count as a resource for the disabled person. if the account has more than $2000 it will affect benefits but mostly SSI not SSDI. wait is DAC different from regular SSDI?? now im confused lol

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There's a critical distinction here that's important to understand. DAC (Disabled Adult Child) benefits are a type of SSDI, but they function somewhat differently than regular SSDI. DAC benefits are paid to the adult child of someone who's entitled to Social Security benefits if that child became disabled before age 22. Regarding the bank account question: SSDI (including DAC) doesn't have resource limits, so having his name on a joint account won't affect his SSDI benefits. However, if he also receives SSI (Supplemental Security Income), which does have a $2,000 resource limit, then any account where he has the legal right to withdraw funds would count toward that limit. I'd recommend speaking with an elder law attorney who understands both disability benefits and estate planning to find the optimal solution for your situation.

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Lydia Bailey

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This is confusing! I thought SSDI didn't have asset limits? That's what they told me when my daughter started getting benefits. But maybe DAC is different???

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You're absolutely right. SSDI, including DAC benefits, doesn't have asset limits. The confusion often happens because many people receive both SSDI and SSI (Supplemental Security Income), and SSI does have strict asset limits ($2,000 for individuals). For the original poster: If your son only receives DAC (which is a form of SSDI), then adding him to your bank account won't affect his eligibility for those benefits. However, if he also receives SSI, or might need to apply for it in the future, then having access to a joint account with more than $2,000 would affect his SSI eligibility.

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Mateo Warren

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There might be better options than a joint account. When my mother was planning for my disabled brother, she set up a special needs trust instead of adding him to accounts. That way he could still qualify for benefits if he needed them, but would have access to funds for supplemental needs. You might also look into an ABLE account which allows disabled individuals to save more than $2,000 without affecting benefits (up to $100,000 for SSI and unlimited for SSDI).

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Ian Armstrong

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Thanks for mentioning ABLE accounts - I've heard of them but don't know much about how they work. Would that be something I set up now, or would he need to open it himself? He's intellectually disabled so financial management is difficult for him.

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A few important points to clarify: 1. DAC (Disabled Adult Child) benefits are a type of SSDI benefit paid to adult children who became disabled before age 22 and who have a parent receiving Social Security benefits. 2. SSDI (including DAC) has NO resource limits, so joint bank accounts don't affect eligibility regardless of the amount. 3. However, if your son also receives SSI now or might need it in the future, joint accounts would count as a resource and could disqualify him if the total exceeds $2,000. 4. For estate planning purposes, consider these alternatives: - Payable-on-death (POD) designation on your account naming your son as beneficiary - Special Needs Trust (more complex but very useful) - ABLE account (can hold up to $100,000 without affecting SSI eligibility) The best approach depends on whether he receives SSI in addition to DAC, the total assets involved, and your broader estate planning goals.

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Sofia Price

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What about those ABLE accounts? I keep hearing about them but don't really get how they're different from regular savings accounts? Can anyone actually use them?

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Alice Coleman

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I went through this exact situation with my brother who's on DAC benefits. The Social Security office was IMPOSSIBLE to reach for clear answers. After being disconnected 8 times and spending hours on hold, I used Claimyr (claimyr.com) to get through to an actual agent in about 20 minutes. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU The SSA agent confirmed that DAC benefits (which is a form of SSDI) don't have asset limits, so a joint account won't affect those benefits. But she warned that if your son also gets SSI or might need it in the future, the joint account could be a problem. For me, a payable-on-death designation was the simplest solution.

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Ian Armstrong

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Thank you! I've been trying to call the SSA office for weeks and keep getting disconnected or told the wait is over 2 hours. I'll check out that service - sounds like exactly what I need since I have more questions about how this all works with my particular situation.

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Owen Jenkins

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Everyone here keeps giving contradictory information!! I've spent YEARS dealing with the SSA system for my disabled daughter and here's what you need to know: 1. DAC (Disabled Adult Child) is a type of SSDI benefit 2. SSDI has NO ASSET LIMITS!!! The SSA doesn't care if you have $5 or $5 million in a bank account 3. SSI DOES have a $2,000 resource limit The problem is that your son might receive both SSDI/DAC AND SSI (many people do), or might need SSI in the future if his DAC benefit is low. DO NOT set up a joint account if there's any chance he receives SSI now or in the future! Instead, look at a POD (payable on death) designation or a properly structured special needs trust. The SSA system is a NIGHTMARE to deal with if you accidentally trigger a benefit issue!!!

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Mateo Warren

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This is exactly right. I'd add that an ABLE account is also worth looking into if the person qualified for disability before age 26. They can have up to $100,000 in an ABLE account without affecting SSI eligibility, and the funds can be used for a wide range of qualified disability expenses.

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Eli Butler

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Guys I'm still confused... I thought DAC was different from SSDI?? My sister gets a check that says DAC on it not SSDI. Why is this so complicated!!!!

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DAC stands for Disabled Adult Child, and it's a specific type of SSDI benefit. SSDI (Social Security Disability Insurance) is the larger program category. Think of it like squares and rectangles - a DAC benefit is a type of SSDI benefit, but not all SSDI benefits are DAC benefits. DAC specifically applies to adults who: 1. Became disabled before age 22 2. Have a parent who receives Social Security retirement or disability benefits, or who died but was entitled to such benefits The check might say DAC to specify which type of SSDI benefit it is, but it's still governed by SSDI rules, including having no asset limits.

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Ian Armstrong

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Thank you everyone for the helpful information! I checked with my son and he only receives DAC benefits, not SSI. Based on all your advice, I think I'll look into setting up a POD (payable on death) designation instead of a joint account, just to be safe. I'm also going to learn more about ABLE accounts since that sounds like it could be really helpful too. It's such a relief to know that SSDI/DAC doesn't have asset limits, but I still want to make sure we set things up in the best way possible for his long-term security. Really appreciate all of you taking the time to share your knowledge!

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Owen Jenkins

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Smart decision! POD is much cleaner than joint ownership. Just make sure you keep documentation of EVERYTHING because the SSA systems are a mess and they sometimes apply the wrong rules. And definitely look into ABLE accounts - they're great for people on DAC who might someday need SSI (if benefit amounts change or costs go up). Good luck!

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Just wanted to add another perspective as someone who's been through the estate planning process with a disabled family member. You might also want to consider talking to your bank about setting up a "convenience account" - it's different from a joint account because the person you designate can access funds to help manage your affairs, but they don't have ownership rights to the money. This could give your son access in an emergency without the potential complications of joint ownership. Also, when you're researching ABLE accounts, check if your state has one or if you need to use another state's program. Some states have better investment options or lower fees than others, and you're usually allowed to use any state's ABLE program regardless of where you live. The POD designation is definitely a solid choice though - it keeps things simple and avoids any potential benefit complications!

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Ravi Sharma

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This is really helpful information! I hadn't heard of a "convenience account" before - that sounds like it could be exactly what I'm looking for. It would give my son access when needed without the ownership complications. I'll definitely ask my bank about this option when I meet with them next week. Thanks for the tip about ABLE accounts too. I didn't realize you could use other states' programs - that's good to know since I'll want to compare fees and options. It's amazing how many different approaches there are to handle this situation safely.

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Grace Thomas

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Another option worth considering is a revocable living trust with your son as the successor trustee (with a backup trustee if needed due to his intellectual disability). This keeps the assets out of probate like you want, but doesn't create the joint ownership issues that could complicate benefits. I went through something similar with my disabled nephew. We ended up doing a combination approach - POD designations for smaller accounts that he could handle, and a special needs trust for larger assets that required more oversight. The key was working with an attorney who specializes in disability planning to make sure everything was set up correctly. One thing to double-check: even though DAC doesn't have asset limits, if your son ever needed to apply for Medicaid waiver services or other state benefits in the future, those programs often DO have asset limits. So keeping things structured properly now could save headaches later.

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Emma Bianchi

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That's a really good point about future Medicaid waiver services! I hadn't even thought about that possibility, but you're absolutely right that state programs often have their own asset limits even when federal SSDI doesn't. The combination approach you mentioned sounds smart - using different tools for different sized assets based on what my son can realistically manage. I'm definitely going to need to find an attorney who specializes in this area because there are so many moving parts to consider. Do you have any suggestions for finding the right kind of attorney? I'm not even sure what to search for - "disability planning attorney" or "special needs attorney" or something else?

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