Shocked at how helpful Social Security phone agent was about survivor benefits comparison - no appointment needed!
Just wanted to share a surprisingly good experience with Social Security! My husband passed away last April, and I've been dreading dealing with comparing my own retirement benefits (I'm 63) to his survivor benefits. I kept putting off making an appointment because the local office is always packed and I hate dealing with crowds. Finally called the 1-800 number this morning expecting to just schedule an in-person appointment. To my complete shock, the agent was able to pull up all our records right then and explain everything! She compared what I'd get if I took my own reduced benefits now vs. waiting until my FRA, and then how the survivor benefits would work in each scenario. Even explained how the GPO might affect things since I have a small pension from teaching. Saved me a trip to the office AND answered questions I didn't even know to ask. Just goes to show sometimes the phone works better than going in person. Has anyone else had good experiences lately? I always hear the horror stories so this was such a nice surprise!
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Omar Zaki
That's TOTALLY not my experience with SS!!! I've called that stupid 800 number SIX TIMES trying to get someone to explain my husband's disability statement, and I either get disconnected or they tell me I need to talk to a "technical expert" who is never available!!!! What number did you call because the regular 800 number is USELESS most of the time. Did you get lucky or is there some special widow number I don't know about??
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Freya Andersen
•I just called the regular number (800-772-1213). Maybe I got lucky with who answered? I did call right when they opened at 8am, so maybe they weren't swamped yet. I'm sorry you've had such a terrible time - it's so frustrating when you're trying to understand something important and can't get help.
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CosmicCrusader
Great to hear you had a good experience! As someone who's worked with SS cases for years, I can tell you that phone service quality varies wildly depending on who you get and how busy they are. For survivor benefits comparing to your own record, a few tips: 1. Make sure you understand the "restricted application" rules if you were born before Jan 2, 1954 2. If you take reduced retirement now, it could affect your survivor benefit rate later 3. Get everything they told you in writing - request a PEBES statement 4. If your teaching pension is from work where you didn't pay SS taxes, definitely check into the GPO calculations Glad you got answers without the hassle of an office visit!
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Chloe Robinson
•Just want to add that the teaching pension GPO reduction is important to verify. It reduces survivor benefits by 2/3 of the pension amount. I've seen many widows miscalculate this. OP, did the agent give you specific dollar amounts for each scenario?
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Diego Flores
i had the opposite happen lol. called 5 times trying to figure out why my disability check was $247 less this month than usual. everyone kept transferring me around and nobody could tell me why. ended up having to go to the office anyway and sit there for 3 hours. turns out they took money for medicare part b that they weren't supposed to take. still waiting for them to fix it 😩
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Anastasia Kozlov
•You might want to try using Claimyr if you need to call again. It's what I used when I was in a similar situation with my SSDI payment issues. Saved me from waiting for hours on hold - they basically connect you to a live agent quickly. Their video shows how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU and their website is claimyr.com. Was worth it to actually talk to someone who could help fix my payment problem without spending all day trying.
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Sean Flanagan
Thanks for sharing this! I'll be in the same situation soon (husband retiring in 2025, trying to figure out spousal benefits), and I've been dreading it. Did they ask for any specific info when you called? Did you need your husband's death certificate info or SSN ready? I want to be prepared when I call.
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Freya Andersen
•Yes! Definitely have both your SSN and your late spouse's SSN ready. They also asked for my date of birth, address, and phone number to verify my identity. I had my husband's death certificate date handy but they already had that information in their system. I was surprised by how quickly they found all our records. Good luck with your call!
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Zara Mirza
Anybody else notice that SS agents are way nicer in the morning? I swear if I call after lunch they're all grumpy and unhelpful but morning calls usually get better service. Maybe they're just not burnt out yet lol
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Omar Zaki
•OMG YES!!!! I never thought about it but you're right! The one time I got decent help was when I called at like 8:05am. Every afternoon call has been a complete disaster. They're probably tired of dealing with confused people all day... but that's literally their job so 🤷♀️
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CosmicCrusader
Just to clarify something important about survivor benefits that many people misunderstand: If you're already at full retirement age when you apply for widow's benefits, you'll get 100% of your deceased spouse's benefit amount. But if you take your own retirement early (before your FRA), and then later switch to survivor benefits, your survivor benefit won't be reduced. However, if you take survivor benefits early (before your survivor FRA), they will be reduced. The reduction amounts are different than for regular retirement benefits. This is why it's so important to compare scenarios like the agent did for you. Sometimes taking your own reduced benefit first, then switching to survivor benefits at your FRA is the best strategy.
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Freya Andersen
•Thank you for this explanation! That's exactly what the agent was showing me - that I could take my own reduced retirement now at 63, then switch to the full survivor benefit when I reach my FRA at 66 and 8 months. The numbers worked out better than waiting for everything. The GPO will reduce it some but not enough to change the strategy.
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Anastasia Kozlov
My mother had a similar experience when my dad passed. She was shocked they answered all her questions by phone. I think people don't realize that for many common situations (especially straightforward survivor benefits), they've really improved their phone service. Now getting through and not being on hold for 2 hours is another story...
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Zara Mirza
•how long was your mom on hold? i never can get thru without at least an hour wait
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