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Keisha Brown

SSA denied my widow benefit estimate while divorcing - can't get info until divorce is final?

I'm in such a confusing situation with Social Security and could really use some help. I'm 51 and currently going through a divorce from my second husband. My first husband passed away after we were married for 13 years, so I know I should be eligible for widow benefits when I turn 60. I called the SSA office to try and get an estimate of what my widow benefits might be so I can plan financially for the next decade, but they flat-out refused to give me ANY information about it. The representative told me it was "confidential" and wouldn't discuss it further. Is this normal? Does my current marital status (still legally married but divorcing) prevent me from getting even a basic estimate? I'm trying to make serious financial decisions and need to know what income I might qualify for in 9 years. Do I really have to wait until my divorce is finalized before they'll even talk to me about my deceased first husband's benefits?

ya this is weird, they usually will give estimates over the phone. have you tried going in person to a field office? sometimes they tell u different things depend who u talk to

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Keisha Brown

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Thanks for responding! I've only tried calling so far. The field office is about an hour away, but maybe it's worth the drive if I could get actual information. It's frustrating how inconsistent they can be.

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Amina Toure

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SSA policy can be confusing here. Generally, they should provide benefit estimates regardless of current marital status. However, your current marriage does affect your eligibility for widow's benefits from your first husband. While you're still married, you're not eligible for those widow's benefits, which might explain why they were reluctant to provide estimates. Once your divorce is finalized, you would regain eligibility for widow's benefits based on your first husband's record (assuming you don't remarry before age 60). At that point, they should provide estimates. You might try explicitly asking for a "What-if" scenario calculation based on when your divorce is final, though some representatives are more helpful than others with these hypotheticals.

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Keisha Brown

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Thank you! That makes more sense now. I didn't realize I wasn't even eligible while still married. I'll specifically ask for a "what-if" calculation once my divorce is final - that's a great suggestion.

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Oliver Weber

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I went through something similar when I was thinking about retirement!!! The SSA people REFUSED to give me any information about my ex-husband's benefits even though we'd been divorced for 12 years!! Said it was PRIVACY issues!! I had to bring our divorce decree and marriage certificate to the office and THEN they finally talked to me. The system is SO FRUSTRATING!

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Amina Toure

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Just to clarify, there's an important distinction here. With divorced spouse benefits (for living ex-spouses), you need to provide proof of the marriage and divorce. For widow(er) benefits from a deceased spouse, the documentation requirements are different, and current marital status affects eligibility differently than with divorced spouse benefits. These are two separate benefit types with different rules.

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FireflyDreams

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does this actually work? i'm skeptical of anything that claims to get thru to SSA quickly lol

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Let me explain what's likely happening: While you're still legally married, you technically aren't eligible for widow's benefits from your first husband. This changes once your divorce is final. You can still get information by being specific about what you're asking. Call again and request: 1. A statement of your deceased husband's earnings record (you're entitled to this information) 2. Ask specifically for a "hypothetical benefit calculation" for when you're divorced and turn 60 3. Make it clear you understand you're not currently eligible but are planning for the future Also, be aware that taking widow benefits at 60 means accepting a reduced amount (about 71.5% of the full benefit). And if you're working at 60 with substantial earnings, you may face the earnings test which further reduces benefits.

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Keisha Brown

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This is so helpful! I had no idea about the reduction at 60 vs waiting longer. I'll definitely call again with these specific questions. Is there a certain department I should ask for that might be more helpful with these calculations?

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Emma Anderson

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My cousin went thru this exact thing! They wouldnt tell her nothing till the divorce was done. Something about how being married cancels out widow benefits so they dont even wanna discuss it til ur single again. She waited 4 months after divorce was final and then they answered all her questions.

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Keisha Brown

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That's really helpful to know it's not just me! My divorce should be final in about 3 months, so maybe I should just wait until then before trying again. Did your cousin end up taking benefits at 60 or waiting longer?

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Amina Toure

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One more important point: Even after your divorce, the maximum you can receive at age 60 is 71.5% of your deceased husband's Primary Insurance Amount (PIA). Each month you wait beyond 60 increases this percentage until you reach 100% at your Full Retirement Age (probably 67 for you). Additionally, if you're entitled to retirement benefits on your own record, you should know that you can: 1. Take reduced widow benefits at 60 2. Switch to your own retirement benefit later if it would be higher Or alternatively: 1. Take your reduced retirement benefit at 62 2. Switch to unreduced widow benefits at your Full Retirement Age This flexibility is valuable for maximizing your lifetime benefits, so getting accurate estimates is truly important for your planning.

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Keisha Brown

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Thank you so much for explaining this. I didn't realize I could switch between different benefits! I've worked most of my life but my earnings were always lower than my first husband's. This gives me a lot to think about regarding timing. I'll definitely need those estimates once my divorce is final to make the best decision.

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im confused bout somthing - if ur 51 now why worry bout benefits at 60? thats 9 years away! SSA changes rules all the time anyways so whatever they tell u now might be different by then

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Keisha Brown

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I'm trying to decide whether to keep my house or sell it as part of the divorce settlement. If I'll have decent widow benefits at 60, I might be able to keep the house and refinance on my own. But if those benefits will be tiny, I probably need to sell now and find something smaller. Nine years seems long, but mortgage decisions last decades!

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Based on your follow-up comments, here's what I suggest for your specific situation: 1. Complete your divorce first 2. Request your own Social Security Statement through your my Social Security account online 3. Contact SSA specifically requesting: - Verification of your deceased former husband's PIA (Primary Insurance Amount) - Calculation of your widow benefit at age 60 (71.5% of his PIA) - Calculation of your own retirement benefit at FRA With these three figures, you can work with a financial advisor to determine whether keeping your house is financially viable. The most accurate calculation will include both your reduced widow benefit at 60 and how it compares to your own benefit at your FRA. This information is essential for making informed long-term financial decisions.

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Keisha Brown

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Thank you so much! I'll follow this exact plan. I do have my my Social Security account set up already, so I'll start there once the divorce is finalized. Would a financial advisor at my bank be knowledgeable about Social Security, or should I look for a specialist?

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Oliver Weber

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DON'T go to a bank financial advisor!!! They don't know SS rules AT ALL and just want to sell you products!!! I learned this the hard way when mine told me completely wrong information about survivor benefits and almost cost me THOUSANDS!!! Find someone who specializes in Social Security claiming strategies - there are actual consultants who ONLY do this!

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This is good advice. Look specifically for a financial advisor who has the RSSA (Registered Social Security Analyst) or NSSA (National Social Security Advisor) certification. These advisors have specialized training in Social Security claiming strategies and how they integrate with overall retirement planning.

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