Retroactive survivor benefits with GPO after FRA - confused about which months I'll get paid for
I finally decided to apply for Survivor benefits even though I'm affected by the Government Pension Offset (GPO). My appointment with SSA is scheduled for February 13th and I'm about 3 years past my Full Retirement Age. From what I've read, I should be eligible for 6 months of retroactive benefits, but I'm confused about exactly which months I'll receive payment for. My protective filing date is December 23, 2024. If I understand correctly, the 6-month retroactive period would cover June-November 2024, with those payments normally distributed in July-December 2024. Is that right? Also, I'm assuming I'll get retroactive payments for December 2024 (my application date) through February 2025 (appointment date), and possibly additional months depending on how quickly they process everything. Can someone confirm if my understanding is correct or if I'm missing something important? I'm trying to budget accordingly since the GPO will reduce my survivor benefit significantly.
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Malik Thomas
You're mostly right, but let me clarify a couple things. With a protective filing date of December 23, 2024, your 6-month retroactive period would indeed start from June 2024. So you'd get retroactive benefits for June through November 2024. Then you'd also get benefits for December 2024 forward, including January and February 2025, and however long it takes them to process your claim. Just be aware that the actual month you receive payment might be delayed based on processing time. I went through something similar with GPO. When I finally got my retroactive payment, it came as one lump sum about 6-8 weeks after my application was approved. Make sure you bring all documentation about your government pension to your appointment so they can calculate the GPO reduction correctly.
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Emma Wilson
•Thank you for explaining! So I'll get June-Nov 2024 as retroactive payments plus Dec 2024 through whenever they finish processing my claim. That makes sense. I'm gathering all my pension documentation now. Did they calculate your GPO reduction correctly the first time, or did you have to follow up?
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Isabella Oliveira
Im confused why ur even applying if u have GPO????? Most ppl with gov pensions get ZERO survivors bcuz of GPO. Did someone tell u ud actually get anything after the 2/3 reduction???
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Emma Wilson
•My government pension is relatively small ($1,750/month), and my late husband's benefit would be around $3,200 at my age. Even with the 2/3 GPO reduction, I should still receive about $1,050 per month. Not a fortune, but definitely worth applying for!
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Ravi Kapoor
As someone who works with SS beneficiaries, I need to point out something important: The retroactive period is based on when you're eligible for benefits, not when you apply. Since you're past your FRA, you're entitled to retroactive benefits up to 6 months from your protective filing date (Dec 23, 2024). So yes, you'd get June-November 2024 as retroactive, plus benefits for December 2024 onward. HOWEVER - be very careful about the payment dates versus benefit months. SS pays a month behind (January benefits come in February, etc.). About your GPO situation - bring ALL documentation about your government pension. The exact reduction is 2/3 of your gross government pension amount before any deductions. Make sure they have the correct gross amount to calculate your benefit properly.
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Emma Wilson
•Thank you for that clarification! I understand now about the payment timing. And yes, I've got my pension award letter showing the gross amount before taxes and health insurance deductions. I appreciate the expert advice!
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Freya Larsen
I had my own battle with GPO last year and the wait times trying to reach someone at SSA were INSANE. I literally spent 6+ hours on hold across multiple days, got disconnected twice, and finally gave up trying to call. I ended up using a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that got me through to an agent in under 15 minutes. They have a video showing how it works at https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU. Saved me a massive headache, especially with all the GPO questions I had that weren't covered clearly on the website.
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GalacticGladiator
•does that claimyr thing really work? i've been trying to get someone on the phone for weeks about my disability application
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Freya Larsen
@profile8 - Yes, it actually does! Used it twice now. First for my GPO question and then when I needed to update my direct deposit info. Both times I got through to a live person in under 20 mins when I had been trying for days on my own.
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Omar Zaki
BE CAREFUL WITH GPO!!! My mom lost her ENTIRE survivor benefit because of this evil provision. She worked for the school district for 30 years and her pension wiped out EVERYTHING she should have gotten from my dad's social security. It's absolutely criminal how they treat government workers!!! Make sure you understand EXACTLY how much you'll actually get before counting on any money.
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Malik Thomas
•While GPO can definitely reduce or eliminate survivor benefits, it actually depends on the amount of each benefit. If someone's government pension is high compared to their potential SS survivor benefit, they might get little or nothing. But if the pension is modest and the survivor benefit would be high, they can still receive a partial benefit. That's why it's always worth checking your specific numbers.
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Chloe Taylor
Just wanted to mention that in addition to the retroactive payments, remember that with survivor benefits the month of death (if not already received by your husband) may also be payable to you. Not sure if this applies in your case since it sounds like this happened a while ago, but it's something people often forget about.
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Emma Wilson
•Thank you! My husband passed away in 2021, and I believe his estate already received his final month's payment. But I'll definitely ask about this during my appointment.
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GalacticGladiator
my mom just went thru this. take everything they tell u about GPO with grain of salt. her first calculation was wrong & they overpaid her then wanted money back!!! bring ALL ur pension docs and ask them to double check the math before u leave!!!!!
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Emma Wilson
•Oh no! That's exactly what I'm worried about. I'm definitely bringing multiple copies of everything and will ask them to show me exactly how they're calculating the reduction. I've already done my own math based on the 2/3 reduction rule, so I should be able to tell if something seems way off.
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Ravi Kapoor
One more important consideration: If your government pension amount ever increases (like with COLA adjustments), you must report this to SSA as it will further reduce your survivor benefit. Many people miss this step and end up with overpayments later. Set a reminder to report any pension increases to SSA right away.
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Emma Wilson
•Thank you for this tip! My pension does have small COLA increases annually. I'll make sure to report any changes immediately. I definitely don't want to deal with overpayment issues.
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