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Chloe Robinson

Can I sign up for Medicare now but delay SS benefits until my FRA without penalty?

My wife just got laid off and I'm losing our health insurance at the end of April. I'm turning 66 in September, which is my Full Retirement Age. I'm trying to figure out the best strategy with Medicare and Social Security timing: Can I enroll in Medicare to start May 1st but wait until September to claim my Social Security retirement benefits? Or do I have to apply for both at the same time? If I decide to just pay for COBRA for May-August and wait to start Medicare until September, will I get hit with late enrollment penalties? I've read different things online about this and I'm confused about whether Medicare and SS benefits have to be coordinated. My financial advisor says I should wait until FRA for maximum benefits, but I need medical coverage soon. Anyone dealt with this timing issue before?

You can absolutely enroll in Medicare without taking Social Security! These are separate decisions. Many people do exactly what you're considering - take Medicare at 65 but delay SS until FRA or even age 70 for higher benefits. As for timing, if you're losing employer coverage, you qualify for a Special Enrollment Period for Medicare. You should apply for Medicare right away to start May 1st to avoid any gaps in coverage. This won't force you to take SS benefits - you can wait until September for those.

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Thank you! That's a big relief. So to be clear, I should be applying for Medicare RIGHT NOW to make sure I'm covered by May 1st? And there's a specific way to indicate I'm in a Special Enrollment Period?

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my neighbor did this exact thing last year. signed up for medicare but waited til 67 for SS. said it was no problem at all.

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That's good to hear someone else did this successfully. Did your neighbor mention how far in advance they had to apply for Medicare to avoid coverage gaps?

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DONT DO COBRA!!!! It's a HUGE ripoff! I paid almost $1,700 a MONTH for just me and my wife. Medicare will be SO MUCH cheaper. And yes you can absolutely do Medicare without SS - I did that for 8 months last year before starting my retirement benefits.

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Wow, that's expensive! I was quoted about $1,450 for COBRA which did seem really high. Did you find the Medicare enrollment process complicated when you did it separately from Social Security?

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You need to apply for Medicare about 2-3 months before you want coverage to start. Since you're losing employer coverage, you qualify for a Special Enrollment Period, which means you won't face late enrollment penalties as long as you sign up within 8 months of losing your coverage. The process is: 1. Go to SSA.gov and apply for Medicare only (Parts A & B) 2. You'll need to complete form CMS-L564 (Request for Employment Information) and have your employer complete their section 3. When applying online, indicate you want ONLY Medicare, not retirement benefits 4. You'll also need to decide if you want a Medicare Advantage plan or a Medigap policy plus Part D And yes, waiting until your FRA in September for Social Security is smart financially if you can afford to do so.

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This is super helpful! I didn't know about form CMS-L564. I've been on the SSA website but got confused by all the options. I'll start the Medicare-only application today and make sure to get that form completed by my employer.

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I'm in the exact same situation except I'm 65 and my FRA isn't until 67. I've been trying to call the Social Security office for TWO WEEKS to ask these same questions and I literally cannot get through. Always busy or disconnects me after being on hold forever. So frustrating!!!

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I had the same problem trying to reach SSA about my disability application. I found this service called Claimyr that got me through to an agent in under 30 minutes. You might want to check them out at claimyr.com - they have a video showing how it works here: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU It was definitely worth it for me because I was able to get my Medicare questions answered right away instead of waiting weeks for a callback.

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Just want to add another detail - when u sign up for Medicare only, make sure you DECLINE the automatic SS benefits enrollment. There's a specific question during the process about this. If u miss it, they might automatically start ur SS benefits too.

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That's a really important point! I definitely don't want my SS benefits to start accidentally. I'll make sure to watch for that question during the enrollment process.

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One more thing to consider - if you're planning to continue working after starting Medicare but before claiming Social Security, make sure you understand how Medicare premiums work in that situation. Since you won't have the premiums automatically deducted from SS benefits, you'll receive quarterly bills for Medicare Part B (and Part D if applicable) that you'll need to pay directly. Also, your Medicare premiums may be higher based on your income from 2 years ago (called IRMAA - Income-Related Monthly Adjustment Amount). This is something to factor into your planning.

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I hadn't thought about the premium payment process - good point! I won't be working after April, but my income from 2023 was pretty high, so I'm guessing I might face those IRMAA higher premiums initially. Does that eventually adjust based on my actual retirement income?

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Yes, the IRMAA amounts adjust each year based on your tax returns from 2 years prior. So in 2025, your Medicare premiums will be based on your 2023 income. But once you're retired with lower income, you can file Form SSA-44 (Life-Changing Event) to request an immediate reduction in your IRMAA if you've experienced a work stoppage or reduction. About your original question: you're making the right choice by separating the Medicare and Social Security decisions. Each month you delay SS after FRA increases your benefit by 2/3 of 1%, which is 8% per year - that's a guaranteed return you can't beat elsewhere!

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Thank you! I'll look into that SSA-44 form. And yes, the 8% increase for delaying SS is exactly why my financial advisor suggested waiting. I just wasn't sure if I could do Medicare separately. Everyone here has been so helpful!

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Did anyone mention Medigap vs Medicare Advantage? That's another big decision you need to make when signing up for Medicare. I went with Advantage because it was cheaper upfront but now I'm regretting it because of all the authorization requirements and network limitations.

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i went with medigap plan G + part D and its working great for me. costs more each month but almost zero out of pocket when i go to dr. and i can see ANY doctor who takes medicare, no networks to worry about. def worth considering if u can afford the monthly premium

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As someone who went through this exact situation 2 years ago, I can confirm you absolutely can and should separate these decisions! I enrolled in Medicare at 65 when I lost my employer coverage, but waited until 67 (my FRA) to start Social Security benefits. A few practical tips from my experience: - Apply for Medicare about 60-90 days before you need coverage (so start NOW for May 1st) - When you apply online at ssa.gov, there's a clear option to select "Medicare benefits only" - You'll need proof of your job loss/coverage ending date for the Special Enrollment Period - I chose traditional Medicare + Medigap Plan G + standalone Part D, which has worked wonderfully - no network restrictions and predictable costs The whole process took about 3 weeks from application to getting my Medicare card. Don't stress about the timing - you're making a smart financial move by maximizing your SS benefits while ensuring you have health coverage!

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