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Can I collect Social Security retirement benefits while receiving VA TDIU at 100%?

I'm turning 65 this May and currently receive VA disability through Total Disability Individual Unemployability (TDIU) at the 100% rate. I've been on TDIU for about 7 years now after my service-connected conditions made it impossible to keep working. I'm confused about whether I qualify for Social Security retirement benefits on top of my VA disability. I worked for about 30 years before my disability, mostly in construction and then later as a supervisor. I've heard different things from different veterans - some say I can collect both without any reduction, others say my SS will be reduced because of my VA benefits. Does anyone know for sure? Do I need to wait until my Full Retirement Age (which I think is 66 and 2 months for me) or can I apply at 65? The extra income would really help with my granddaughter's college expenses.

Yes, you absolutely can collect both Social Security retirement and VA disability (including TDIU) with no reduction to either benefit. They are completely separate programs run by different government agencies. VA benefits are based on service-connected disabilities while Social Security retirement is based on your work history and what you paid into the system during those 30 years. However, turning 65 doesn't automatically qualify you for full Social Security retirement benefits. For someone turning 65 in 2025, your Full Retirement Age (FRA) is indeed 66 and 2 months. You can apply at 65, but your benefits will be permanently reduced by about 7-8% compared to waiting until your FRA. If you can wait until 66 and 2 months, you'll get your full benefit amount.

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Thank you so much for the clear explanation! That's a huge relief. Do you know if I need to provide any special documentation about my VA benefits when I apply for Social Security? And is the application process pretty straightforward?

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my buddy gets both VA and social security no problem he said they don't even look at each other

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This is mostly correct but there's an important distinction to make here. Regular VA disability compensation and TDIU can be received alongside Social Security RETIREMENT benefits without any offset or reduction. However, if you were applying for Social Security DISABILITY (SSDI), that's a different story - in that case, there can be complications and potential reductions. But since the original poster is turning 65 and asking about retirement benefits, they should be fine receiving both without any reductions.

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I'm currently getting both VA disability (90%) AND Social Security. Been getting both for almost 3 years now. The VA doesn't care what Social Security pays you, and Social Security doesn't care what the VA pays you. They're COMPLETELY separate! BUT!!!! Be careful about applying too early. I applied at exactly 65 and lost about $240 a month FOREVER compared to what I would have gotten if I'd waited until my full retirement age. If you can afford to wait, WAIT!!!! That reduction is permanent and adds up to a lot of money over time. Also, have you checked your Social Security statement online to see what your benefit amount will be? You should create an account at ssa.gov if you haven't already and check your estimated benefit amounts.

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I haven't checked my benefit amount yet. I haven't been on the SSA website in years. I'll try to create an account and see what it says. Did you have any trouble getting through to them when you applied?

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Don't forget that SS benefits might be taxable depending on your overall income. Since your TDIU payments aren't taxable, they don't count toward the threshold for determining if your SS benefits get taxed, but if you have other income sources that might push you over. Something to keep in mind when budgeting.

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I went through this exact situation last year. VA TDIU at 100% and turned 65. I can confirm that you can absolutely receive both benefits simultaneously with no reduction to either one. Here's what I learned through the process: 1. Apply for Social Security about 3 months before you want benefits to begin 2. You can apply online, but I recommend trying to get an in-person or phone appointment 3. The backlog for appointments is ridiculous right now - I tried for weeks to get through 4. I finally used a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that got me connected to an SSA agent within 20 minutes instead of waiting on hold for hours. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU 5. Having an actual person help with the application prevented mistakes that might have delayed my benefits Regarding the timing: If you need the money now, apply at 65. If you can wait until 66 and 2 months (your FRA), you'll get about 7-8% more per month for the rest of your life. If you can wait even longer (up to age 70), you'll get an 8% increase for each year you delay beyond FRA.

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This is incredibly helpful, thank you! I've been trying to get through to SSA for a basic question and keep getting disconnected. I'll check out that Claimyr service - sounds like exactly what I need right now. Did you find the actual application process complicated?

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The application itself isn't too bad if you're prepared. Have your military service dates, VA claim info, and work history organized before you start. The most complicated part for me was actually just reaching someone at SSA to help guide me through the process. Once I got through to a person using Claimyr, they walked me through everything. Much easier than trying to figure it out alone on their website.

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THE SSA AND VA ARE CORRUPT!!! I served my country for 12 years, got TDIU after fighting for YEARS, and then when I applied for Social Security at 62, they gave me almost NOTHING!!! They said because I hadn't worked enough in recent years, my benefit was reduced. NOBODY TOLD ME THIS WOULD HAPPEN!!! The whole system is designed to confuse veterans and deny us benefits we EARNED!!! DON'T TRUST WHAT THEY TELL YOU! Get EVERYTHING in writing!!!!

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I understand your frustration, but there's an important clarification needed here. What you experienced was likely due to applying for Social Security retirement early at age 62 (which reduces benefits by about 30%) AND possibly having years of zero income while on TDIU that affected your benefit calculation. The original poster worked 30 years before TDIU, which means they likely have enough credits and a solid earnings record for a decent Social Security benefit. The situations aren't exactly comparable. Also, Social Security uses your highest 35 years of earnings to calculate benefits. If you have fewer than 35 years of work, they fill in the missing years with zeros, which brings down the average.

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Something nobody has mentioned yet - if you're on TDIU because you can't work, have you considered applying for Social Security Disability Insurance (SSDI) instead of retirement benefits? If you qualify for SSDI and haven't reached full retirement age yet, that might be more advantageous in your situation. The medical evidence from your VA disability claim could potentially support your SSDI application. Just something to consider before automatically going the retirement route.

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This is technically possible, but practically speaking, at age 65 it's usually not worth pursuing SSDI vs. retirement benefits. The approval process for SSDI typically takes 1-2 years with appeals, and at 65 the OP is only about a year away from their Full Retirement Age anyway. Also, SSDI benefits convert to retirement benefits at FRA, so there's no long-term advantage. The only benefit would be potentially getting 100% of their FRA benefit amount now rather than a reduced amount, but the lengthy SSDI application process makes this questionable.

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Thanks for this suggestion. I did consider SSDI years ago when I first got on TDIU, but at this point being so close to retirement age, I think the retirement route makes more sense for me. I appreciate the thought though!

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ive been getting SS retirement since 63 and VA disability since forever... both deposits hit my bank account no problem... u earned both so u get both

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One more thing I just remembered - when you do apply, they'll ask if you want Medicare Part B (the medical insurance part that costs $175.30/month in 2025). Even if you use VA healthcare, you might want to consider enrolling in Part B because VA doesn't always cover everything, and if you decline Part B now but want it later, you'll pay permanent penalties. I have both VA healthcare and Medicare as backup, and it's given me more options for specialists.

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That's a great point about Medicare Part B. I do use VA healthcare exclusively right now, but having a backup makes sense. I'll definitely sign up for that when I apply. Thank you!

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Just wanted to add one more consideration - since you mentioned your granddaughter's college expenses, you might want to factor in how the timing of your Social Security application affects your overall financial planning. If you apply at 65 and take the reduced benefit, you'll get money flowing sooner but less per month. If you wait until 66 and 2 months for your FRA, you'll get more per month but start later. One strategy some people use is to calculate the "break-even" point - how long it takes for the higher monthly payments to make up for the months you didn't receive anything. For most people, if you expect to live past your late 70s, waiting for FRA usually comes out ahead financially in the long run. Also, since you're receiving TDIU, you might qualify for some educational benefits that could help with your granddaughter's college costs. Have you looked into transferring any unused GI Bill benefits to her, or other VA education programs for family members?

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As someone who just went through this process myself, I can confirm what others have said - you can absolutely collect both VA TDIU and Social Security retirement benefits without any reduction to either. They're completely separate programs. A few practical tips from my experience: 1. **Check your Social Security statement first** - Go to ssa.gov and create a my Social Security account to see your estimated benefit amounts at different ages. This will help you decide whether to apply at 65 or wait. 2. **Consider the math** - At 65, you'll get about 93% of your full benefit. At your FRA (66 and 2 months), you'll get 100%. That reduction is permanent, so calculate whether the extra monthly income now is worth more than the higher payments later. 3. **Application timing** - Apply about 3 months before you want benefits to start. The process can take time, and you don't want delays. 4. **No special VA documentation needed** - When you apply for Social Security, you don't need to provide anything special about your VA benefits. They're handled by different agencies and don't affect each other. 5. **Tax considerations** - Your TDIU payments aren't taxable, but your Social Security benefits might be depending on your total income. Factor this into your planning. Given that you mentioned needing help with college expenses, you might benefit from getting the income flowing sooner even with the reduction, but run the numbers for your specific situation first.

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This is exactly the kind of comprehensive breakdown I was hoping for! Thank you for taking the time to share your experience. I'm definitely going to create that my Social Security account today to see what my estimated benefits look like at different ages. The math aspect is something I hadn't really considered properly - I was just thinking about getting money sooner rather than the long-term impact of that permanent reduction. Your point about the tax implications is also something I need to research more. I appreciate everyone's help in this thread - it's given me a much clearer picture of what to expect and what steps to take next.

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I'm in a very similar situation - turning 66 next month and have been on TDIU at 100% for about 5 years. Just wanted to confirm what everyone else has said is absolutely correct. I applied for Social Security retirement benefits last year and there was zero impact on my VA disability payments. They really are completely separate systems. One thing I'd add that I learned the hard way - when you do apply, make sure you understand exactly when your benefits will start. I thought I was applying "early" by doing it 3 months ahead, but there was still about a 6-week processing delay that I hadn't accounted for. Not a huge deal, but just something to factor into your timeline. Also, regarding the Medicare Part B that someone mentioned - I'd definitely recommend enrolling even if you primarily use VA healthcare. I had a situation where I needed to see a specialist quickly and the VA had a 3-month wait, but I was able to get an appointment within a week using Medicare. Having both options has been really valuable. Good luck with your application process! The peace of mind of having both income streams is worth the effort.

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Thank you for sharing your experience! It's really reassuring to hear from someone who's actually been through this process recently. The processing delay is definitely something I need to factor in - I was thinking I could just apply right when I turn 65 and have everything ready to go, but it sounds like I should start the process even earlier to account for those delays. Your point about Medicare Part B is really helpful too. I've been hesitant about the monthly cost, but having that backup option for faster specialist access sounds like it could be worth it. Did you find the Medicare enrollment process straightforward when you applied for Social Security, or was that a separate application? I'm feeling much more confident about moving forward with this now after reading everyone's experiences. Thank you all for taking the time to share your knowledge!

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I just want to echo what everyone else has said - you absolutely can collect both VA TDIU and Social Security retirement benefits without any reduction. I've been getting both for over two years now and they've never interfered with each other. One thing I'd strongly recommend is calling the Social Security Administration's main number (1-800-772-1213) and asking them to mail you a paper application if you're having trouble with their website or getting through by phone. I found the paper application much easier to work with, and you can mail it back or drop it off at a local SSA office. Sometimes the old-fashioned way is actually faster than trying to deal with their overloaded online system. Also, since you mentioned your granddaughter's college expenses - don't forget that some states offer property tax exemptions or reductions for disabled veterans. If you own your home, that could free up some additional money to help with those college costs. Every little bit helps! The fact that you worked 30 years before going on TDIU means you should have a decent Social Security benefit coming. Just make sure to weigh whether you need the money now vs. waiting for that extra monthly amount at your full retirement age.

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That's a great suggestion about requesting the paper application! I hadn't thought of that approach, but it might be exactly what I need since I've been struggling with their website and phone system. Sometimes the traditional methods really are more reliable. The property tax exemption tip is excellent too - I do own my home and had no idea that might be available for disabled veterans. I'll definitely look into what my state offers. You're right that every bit helps, especially with college costs being what they are these days. Thank you for confirming again about the dual benefits. It's amazing how much peace of mind comes from hearing the same reassuring message from multiple people who have actually been through this process. I feel like I have a solid plan now: check my estimated benefits online, request a paper application as backup, apply about 3-4 months before I want benefits to start (accounting for processing time), and look into those property tax benefits. This community has been incredibly helpful!

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I'm also approaching this situation and wanted to add a few points that might be helpful based on my research and conversations with other veterans: **Regarding the application process:** If you're having trouble getting through to SSA by phone, another option is to visit your local Social Security office in person. Yes, there might be a wait, but sometimes it's actually faster than trying to get through their phone system during peak times. You can find your local office and even schedule an appointment online at ssa.gov/locator. **About your work credits:** Since you worked 30 years, you definitely have more than enough credits to qualify for Social Security retirement benefits (you only need 40 credits total, which is about 10 years of work). Your benefit amount will be based on your highest 35 years of earnings, so those 30 years of work should give you a solid foundation. **Medicare enrollment timing:** When you apply for Social Security, they'll automatically enroll you in Medicare Part A (hospital coverage) since you'll be 65, but you'll need to actively decide about Part B. Don't rush this decision - you have a bit of time to think it through, but missing the enrollment window can result in penalties later. **One additional resource:** The VA has benefits counselors who can sometimes help explain how VA and Social Security benefits interact. It might be worth calling your local VA office to see if they have someone who can walk you through the process from the VA side. Your granddaughter is lucky to have someone thinking ahead about her college expenses. Best of luck with the application process!

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This is such valuable information, thank you! The idea of visiting the local SSA office in person hadn't occurred to me - I've been so focused on trying to get through online or by phone. Sometimes face-to-face really is the most effective approach, especially for something this important. Your point about having enough work credits is reassuring. I wasn't entirely sure how the math worked out, but knowing that 30 years is well above the minimum requirement gives me confidence that my benefit should be decent. The Medicare timing information is particularly helpful. I was worried I'd have to make all these decisions immediately, but it sounds like there's at least some breathing room to research the Part B decision properly. I definitely plan to reach out to the VA benefits counselors too - I hadn't thought about approaching this from the VA side, but having someone who understands both systems could be really valuable. Thanks for mentioning the appointment scheduling option online. That might be the perfect middle ground between trying to get through by phone and just showing up and waiting. I really appreciate everyone taking the time to share their knowledge and experiences - this thread has been incredibly educational!

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As a newcomer to this community, I want to thank everyone for this incredibly thorough and helpful discussion! I'm not in this exact situation yet, but I'm learning so much from reading about everyone's experiences. One thing that really stands out to me is how consistent the message has been from multiple people who have actually gone through this process - you CAN receive both VA TDIU and Social Security retirement benefits without any reduction to either. That kind of real-world confirmation is so valuable. The practical tips about timing (applying 3-4 months early to account for processing delays), the Medicare Part B decision, and even things like requesting paper applications or visiting local offices in person are exactly the kind of details that can make a huge difference when you're actually navigating these systems. @Giovanni, it sounds like you have a solid plan forming based on everyone's input. The fact that you worked 30 years before TDIU should definitely work in your favor for your Social Security benefits. Best of luck with your application process, and thanks for asking the question that generated such a wealth of helpful information for all of us!

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Welcome to the community! You're absolutely right about how valuable it is to get consistent real-world confirmation from people who have actually been through this process. When you're dealing with government benefits, there's so much conflicting information floating around that having multiple veterans share their direct experiences really cuts through the confusion. As someone who's also newer to navigating these systems, I've found this thread incredibly educational too. The level of detail everyone has provided - from the technical aspects of benefit calculations to practical tips like requesting paper applications - shows how supportive this community is. It's clear that people here genuinely want to help each other succeed in getting the benefits we've earned. @Giovanni, I hope you'll update us on how your application process goes! It would be great to hear about your experience for future community members who find themselves in similar situations.

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Welcome to the community! This has been such an informative thread to follow. I'm currently 62 and on VA disability at 70%, not TDIU, but I've been wondering about the interaction between VA benefits and Social Security for when I reach retirement age in a few years. Reading through everyone's experiences has been incredibly reassuring, especially hearing from so many people who are successfully receiving both benefits without any issues. The practical advice about timing applications, dealing with SSA's phone system challenges, and the Medicare considerations are all things I wouldn't have thought about on my own. @Giovanni - your situation sounds very similar to what I'll be facing in a few years, just with regular VA disability instead of TDIU. The fact that you worked 30 years before your disability should definitely work in your favor for Social Security benefits. One question for the group: Does anyone know if the process or considerations are any different for someone with regular VA disability compensation (not TDIU) when applying for Social Security retirement? I'm assuming the "no reduction to either benefit" rule still applies, but wanted to confirm since my situation is slightly different from the original question. Thanks to everyone who has shared their knowledge and experiences here - this is exactly the kind of community support that makes navigating these complex systems so much easier!

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Welcome! Great question about regular VA disability vs TDIU. The answer is yes - the "no reduction to either benefit" rule absolutely applies to regular VA disability compensation as well. Whether you're receiving 10%, 70%, 100% schedular, or 100% TDIU, none of it affects your Social Security retirement benefits and vice versa. I've been getting 80% VA disability and Social Security retirement for about 18 months now with zero issues or reductions. The key thing to remember is that VA benefits are compensation for service-connected injuries/conditions, while Social Security retirement is based on your work history and contributions. They're completely separate systems that don't talk to each other. Your timeline sounds perfect for planning ahead. Since you have a few years, definitely create that my Social Security account online to track your estimated benefits and start thinking about whether you want to apply at 62 (with reduction), wait for your full retirement age, or even delay until 70 for maximum benefits. The process will be exactly the same as what everyone has described here for @Giovanni - no special documentation needed about your VA benefits when applying for Social Security. Good luck with your planning!

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As someone who works with veterans on benefit claims, I want to emphasize a few key points that have been touched on but are worth reinforcing: **Documentation tip:** While you don't need to provide VA documentation when applying for Social Security, I'd recommend keeping your VA award letter handy just in case. Sometimes SSA representatives ask questions out of curiosity or confusion, and having it available can help clear up any misunderstandings quickly. **Timing strategy:** Given your granddaughter's college timeline, consider this approach - calculate exactly how much you'd receive monthly at 65 vs waiting until 66 and 2 months, then figure out how many months of early payments it would take to equal the lifetime difference. For many people, if you expect to live into your 80s, waiting for FRA comes out ahead financially. **One often-missed detail:** When you do apply, make sure to ask about the "do-over" rule. If you apply early and change your mind within 12 months, you can withdraw your application, repay what you've received, and reapply later for the higher benefit amount. Not many people know about this option. Your 30 years of work history before TDIU puts you in an excellent position for Social Security benefits. The fact that you're asking these questions well in advance shows smart planning - your granddaughter is fortunate to have someone thinking ahead about her education costs!

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This is incredibly helpful advice! I hadn't heard about the "do-over" rule before - that's really valuable information to know. Having that safety net option could make the decision about when to apply feel less permanent and stressful. Your point about keeping the VA award letter handy is smart too. Even if it's not officially required, having documentation readily available to clear up any confusion makes total sense. I've learned from other benefit situations that being over-prepared is always better than scrambling to find paperwork later. The timing strategy you outlined is exactly what I need to work through. I was leaning toward applying at 65 just to get the income flowing for my granddaughter's expenses, but doing the actual math on the lifetime impact is crucial. If I'm likely to live into my 80s (which runs in my family), waiting those extra 14 months for full retirement age might be the smarter financial move in the long run. Thank you for sharing your professional perspective on this - it's clear you've helped a lot of veterans navigate these decisions. Between your advice and everyone else's experiences in this thread, I feel much more confident about approaching this decision systematically rather than just going with my gut feeling about needing money sooner.

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As a veteran who went through this exact process two years ago, I can absolutely confirm what everyone else has said - you can receive both VA TDIU at 100% and Social Security retirement benefits with zero reduction to either. They're completely independent systems. A few additional thoughts based on my experience: **Consider your health and family longevity** - Since you mentioned this decision affects your granddaughter's college expenses, think about your family's health history. If longevity runs in your family, waiting for FRA at 66 and 2 months will likely pay off in the long run. But if you need the income now for her education, taking the reduced benefit at 65 might be the right choice for your family's immediate needs. **Local SSA office strategy** - I had much better luck scheduling an appointment at my local office rather than trying to get through by phone. The staff there were knowledgeable about veteran benefits and made the process smooth. They also helped me understand the Medicare enrollment timing, which was confusing on my own. **One thing to consider** - Have you looked into whether your granddaughter might qualify for any VA education benefits through your service? Sometimes there are transferable benefits or survivor/dependent education programs that could supplement what you're planning to contribute from your Social Security. Your 30 years of work history should result in a solid Social Security benefit. The peace of mind of having both income streams has been tremendous for my family's financial stability. Best of luck with your decision!

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Thank you so much for sharing your experience! Your point about considering family longevity alongside immediate financial needs really resonates with me. My family does tend to live well into their 80s and 90s, so the long-term math probably favors waiting for FRA, but balancing that against my granddaughter's immediate college needs is definitely the key decision I need to make. I really appreciate the suggestion about checking into VA education benefits for my granddaughter - I honestly hadn't thought about that possibility. I used my GI Bill benefits years ago, but I should definitely look into whether there are any transferable or dependent benefits available that could help with her college costs. That could potentially change the whole equation about when to apply for Social Security. The local SSA office approach seems to be the consensus from everyone who's been through this process. I'm definitely going to schedule an appointment rather than continuing to struggle with their phone system. It sounds like the in-person experience is not only more reliable but also more informative, especially regarding the Medicare decisions. This thread has been absolutely invaluable - thank you to everyone who has shared their real-world experiences and advice!

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Welcome to the community! As someone who's been navigating VA benefits for a few years now, I want to echo what everyone has said - this thread is incredibly comprehensive and helpful. @Giovanni, one thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is that you might want to consider creating that my Social Security account online sooner rather than later, not just to check your estimated benefits, but also to make sure all your earnings history is accurate. Sometimes there are errors or missing years that can affect your benefit calculation, and it's much easier to get those corrected before you apply rather than after. Also, since you mentioned your granddaughter's college expenses, you might want to factor in the timing of when she'll need the money most. If she's starting college soon and you need immediate help with costs, the reduced benefit at 65 might make sense. But if she has a few years before college or you have other ways to cover the initial costs, waiting for your FRA could mean significantly more money available for her later college years or graduate school. The consistency of everyone's experiences here really shows how reliable these dual benefits are. It's great to see such a supportive community helping each other navigate these important decisions!

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That's an excellent point about checking the earnings history for accuracy! I hadn't thought about that aspect, but you're absolutely right that it's much better to catch and fix any errors before applying rather than trying to sort them out afterward. I'll definitely prioritize creating that my Social Security account to review my work history. Your suggestion about timing the benefits around my granddaughter's actual college timeline is really smart too. She's currently a junior in high school, so I have about two years before she starts college. That gives me some flexibility to potentially wait until my FRA and still have the higher monthly payments available for her college years when the expenses will be heaviest. The more I think about it, waiting those extra 14 months for full retirement age might be the better long-term strategy, especially since I'd have the higher benefit amount available right when her college costs kick in. Plus, if there are any VA education benefits available for her as others have suggested, that could help bridge any gap in the meantime. Thank you for adding another important consideration to my decision-making process! This community has been incredibly thorough in helping me think through all the angles.

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As a newcomer to this community, I just want to say how incredibly helpful and comprehensive this discussion has been! I'm not personally in this situation yet, but I'm learning so much from everyone's real-world experiences. What really strikes me is how consistent the message has been from multiple veterans who have actually gone through this process - you absolutely CAN receive both VA TDIU and Social Security retirement benefits without any reduction to either. That kind of firsthand confirmation is invaluable when dealing with government benefit systems that can seem so complex and confusing. The practical advice shared here goes way beyond just answering the basic question too. Tips about timing applications 3-4 months early, the Medicare Part B considerations, checking earnings history for accuracy, requesting paper applications as backup, scheduling in-person appointments at local SSA offices - these are exactly the kinds of details that can make the difference between a smooth process and a frustrating one. @Giovanni, it sounds like you have some great options to consider, especially with your granddaughter's college timeline giving you some flexibility in timing. The suggestion about looking into potential VA education benefits for her is brilliant too - that could really change the whole financial equation. Thank you to everyone who has shared their knowledge and experiences. This is exactly the kind of supportive community that makes navigating these important decisions so much easier!

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