Can I claim Social Security at 65 while still working and earning $33,000? Worried about penalties but need the income
I'm turning 65 in three months and trying to decide if I should start my Social Security retirement benefits while I'm still working. I currently earn about $33,000 annually at my part-time job, which I plan to keep for at least another 2-3 years. I understand there's an earnings limit penalty since I'm below my Full Retirement Age (which is 66 and 6 months for me), but I've done some rough calculations and think the extra income would still be beneficial for my situation. My monthly benefit would be around $1,900 if I claim now versus $2,300 if I wait until my FRA. With the earnings limit at $21,240 for 2025 (I think?), I'd be about $11,760 over, which means they'd withhold some benefits. But even with the reduction, wouldn't I still come out ahead financially in the short term? I've tried calling the SSA three times but keep getting disconnected. Has anyone been in a similar situation or have advice on this strategy? Is there something I'm missing in my calculations? My mortgage is finally paid off but I'm helping my daughter with college expenses and my medical costs keep increasing.
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Liam McConnell
You're making a common mistake with your calculations. Since you're earning $33,000 and the 2025 earnings limit is $21,240 for people under FRA, you'll lose $1 in benefits for every $2 you earn over that limit. So your reduction would be about $5,880 in benefits withheld for the year (half of your $11,760 over the limit). If your monthly benefit would be $1,900, that's $22,800 annually. After the reduction, you'd receive approximately $16,920 for the year. So yes, between your job and reduced benefits, you'd have more income in the short term than just your job alone. But remember - this is a permanent reduction in your benefit amount compared to waiting. At your FRA, the earnings test goes away, but you'll still have that reduced benefit amount for life. Have you calculated the long-term impact? How long do you expect to live? Family history of longevity?
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Mei Zhang
•Thank you for explaining this! I haven't fully calculated the long-term impact. My parents both lived into their 90s, so longevity does run in my family. Would the reduction be truly permanent though? I thought the penalty was just benefits withheld while I'm working under FRA, and then at FRA they would recalculate and adjust my benefit up for the months they withheld benefits. Am I misunderstanding something?
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Amara Oluwaseyi
i started mine at 64 and kept working part-time. the SSA took away some of my beneftis each month but then when I hit my full retirement age they adjusted it back up. not all the way to what it would have been if i'd waited but higher than what i was getting. was worth it for me becuase i needed the extra SS money even with the penalty
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Mei Zhang
•That's really helpful to hear about your experience! So they did adjust it back up somewhat at your FRA. Do you happen to remember roughly how much they adjusted it up? And did you have to request this adjustment or did they do it automatically?
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CosmicCaptain
There are two separate concepts you're confusing: 1. Benefit reduction for claiming early: This IS permanent. Claiming at 65 instead of your FRA of 66+6mo means approximately a 9% permanent reduction. This never gets adjusted back up. 2. Earnings test withholding: When you earn over the limit, SSA withholds benefits. But at FRA, they recalculate and give you credit for those months they withheld full benefits. This effectively increases your monthly amount a bit. So while you won't permanently lose the withheld amount, you will have the permanent reduction for claiming early. One strategy to consider: If your budget allows, could you wait until January to file? That way, you're one year closer to FRA, meaning less permanent reduction AND the earnings test will affect fewer months of benefits. Last thing to consider: Have you calculated how taking benefits now might impact your daughter if you pass away? Survivor benefits are affected by when you claim.
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Mei Zhang
•Ah, now I understand! Thank you for clarifying the two different types of reductions. I hadn't considered the impact on potential survivor benefits for my daughter - that's an important point I need to research more. Waiting until January is actually a really good idea I hadn't considered. I could tighten my budget for a few months, and that would reduce both types of reductions. You've given me a lot to think about!
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Giovanni Rossi
I'M GOING THROUGH THIS EXACT SAME THING!!! I'm 64, working part-time earning about $28K, and NOBODY at Social Security will give me a straight answer!!! Been trying to get through on the phone for WEEKS with no luck. This system is SO FRUSTRATING!!!
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Fatima Al-Maktoum
•I had the same problem trying to reach someone at SSA about my benefit questions. After getting disconnected multiple times and waiting on hold for hours, I found a service called Claimyr that got me through to an SSA agent in under 5 minutes. Seriously saved me so much frustration! I just went to claimyr.com and they connected me right away. They have a video showing how it works at https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU if you want to check it out. The agent I spoke with gave me exact calculations for my situation with the earnings test.
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Dylan Mitchell
just take it now i did. money today worth more than money tomorrow thats what my dad always said lol
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Sofia Gutierrez
•This is terrible advice without knowing OP's full financial situation. Not everyone should claim early, especially with a family history of longevity. There's a break-even point that varies for each person.
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Dylan Mitchell
•whatever man just sharing what worked for me. everyone so serious here
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Sofia Gutierrez
Have you considered how this will affect your taxes? With your $33k income plus Social Security benefits, you might end up having up to 85% of your SS benefits subject to income tax. This should factor into your calculations as well.
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Mei Zhang
•I hadn't considered the tax implications at all - thank you for bringing this up! I need to include this in my calculations too. This is getting more complicated than I initially thought.
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Liam McConnell
After reading through this thread, I want to add one more important point: if you're still working, check whether your employer offers health insurance. If they do, and if you're planning to enroll in Medicare at 65, make sure you understand how the two will coordinate. Depending on your employer's size, either Medicare or your employer plan will be primary. This could have significant implications for your healthcare costs and coverage, which should be factored into your decision about when to claim Social Security benefits.
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Mei Zhang
•That's an excellent point! My employer does offer health insurance, but it's quite expensive for what it covers. I've already signed up for Medicare Parts A and B starting when I turn 65. I'll need to look into whether keeping my employer coverage as secondary insurance makes financial sense given the premiums. Thank you for this perspective!
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Amara Oluwaseyi
saw somone mention taxes... dont forget bout that qtr of coverage thing. if u need more quarters for ur 40 credits working longer helps with that too
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CosmicCaptain
•Good point about quarters of coverage, but just to clarify for everyone - collecting Social Security retirement benefits doesn't prevent you from continuing to earn quarters of coverage. You can collect benefits and still earn credits toward your 40 quarters if you haven't reached that threshold yet. Each quarter in 2025 requires about $1,750 in earnings, so even part-time work usually covers this.
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Giovanni Rossi
Has anyone used one of those Social Security calculators online? I tried three different ones and got completely different answers!!! I don't know which one to trust!!!
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Liam McConnell
•The most accurate calculator is the one on the official SSA website (ssa.gov), but even that one has limitations. For a complete analysis of your specific situation, including the earnings test and taxation impacts, you might want to consult with a financial advisor who specializes in retirement planning and Social Security claiming strategies. Many offer free initial consultations.
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Mei Zhang
Thank you all for the incredibly helpful advice! After considering everything (especially the taxes, longevity in my family, and the permanent reduction), I'm leaning toward waiting until January to file as someone suggested. That gives me time to build up a bit more savings and reduces the total impact of claiming early. I'm going to try reaching out to SSA again for specific calculations based on my work record. The Claimyr service someone mentioned sounds worth trying after my frustrating attempts to get through. I'll also talk to a financial advisor about the tax implications and how this might affect my long-term financial picture. It's clearly more complex than I initially thought, and I want to make the best decision possible. Really appreciate all the insights from people who have been through this already!
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Fatima Al-Maktoum
•Sounds like a solid plan! When I used Claimyr to reach SSA, I had specific questions ready about my earnings record and how the earnings test would apply in my case. The agent was able to calculate exactly what my benefit would be with the early claiming reduction and give me projections for different retirement dates. Definitely worth having all your questions organized before you call.
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