PA UC employer appeal hearing on Thursday - What should I expect as a first-timer?
I just got a notice in the mail that my former employer filed an appeal against my PA unemployment claim and now there's a hearing scheduled for this Thursday morning! I've never been through anything like this before and I'm honestly freaking out a little. The letter says it's a 'telephone hearing' and has a case number and the referee's name, but I have no idea what to expect or how to prepare. Will they ask me a bunch of questions? Should I have documents ready? What happens if my internet cuts out (my connection is terrible)? My claim has been paying for about 4 weeks now, but the letter says benefits could be affected by the hearing decision. Does anyone have experience with these employer-filed appeals? Any advice would be GREATLY appreciated!!
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Chloe Harris
These hearings are actually pretty straightforward, but it's good to prepare. First, read the hearing notice carefully - it should list the specific issue being disputed (misconduct, voluntary quit, etc). The referee will ask both you and your employer questions about your separation. Have ready: 1) your dates of employment, 2) specific details about how your job ended, 3) any documentation that supports your side (emails, warnings, handbook, etc). The most important thing is to be honest and stay calm. The referee just wants facts - keep answers brief and to the point. And don't worry about internet - it's a phone hearing, so you'll call in to a conference line using the number on your notice. Good luck!
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CosmicCadet
•Thank you so much! The notice says the issue is 'voluntary quit' but I was definitely laid off due to 'lack of work' - they even said so in my termination meeting. Should I mention that they've already paid me benefits for a month? I'm so nervous about saying the wrong thing!
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Diego Mendoza
my boss tried this crap with me last year!!! your employer is probably just trying to avoid the UI tax hit. if they laid you off they cant say you quit, thats BS. make sure you tell the referee EXACTLY what happened in the termination meeting. if they said "lack of work" then u need to say those exact words. the hearing is recorded btw.
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CosmicCadet
•Omg that's what I'm worried about - them trying to change their story. The HR person literally said "unfortunately we have to eliminate your position due to reduced client contracts" but now the appeal notice says I voluntarily quit!? Should I ask my coworkers who heard it to testify or something?
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Anastasia Popova
I went through this exact situation in January. The hearing itself lasted about 45 minutes. The referee introduced himself, swore us in, and then asked questions. My former employer went first, then me. Make sure you have any evidence ready (they'll tell you how to submit it). Be super specific about dates and what was said. If you were laid off but they're claiming you quit, make sure you clearly explain that discrepancy. And yes - the fact that you've been receiving benefits will come up, but that doesn't mean much for the hearing outcome. If they rule against you, you'll have to pay back what you've received so far. But if they rule for you (which sounds likely based on what you described), nothing changes with your payments.
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CosmicCadet
•Thank you for sharing your experience! I'm taking notes on all this. If I lose, would I have to pay back all four weeks immediately? That would be over $1600 and I don't have that kind of money right now...
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Sean Flanagan
call in 15 mins early!!! i was late to mine and the refere was NOT happy about it
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CosmicCadet
•Good tip - definitely don't want to start on the wrong foot!
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Zara Shah
I've tried calling PA UC about my own appeal issue for DAYS and just get endless busy signals. When I do get through the prompts, it hangs up before I talk to anyone. So frustrating! I found this service called Claimyr that got me through to an actual agent in under 20 minutes. You might want to have that ready if you need to ask questions before your hearing. Check out their demo at https://youtu.be/CEPETxZdo9E?si=WL1ZzVZWG3KiHrg2 and their site is claimyr.com. Seriously saved me hours of redial nightmare. The agent I reached was really helpful explaining what documentation I needed for my hearing.
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CosmicCadet
•Thanks for the suggestion! I do have a couple questions I should probably ask before Thursday. Was thinking of driving to the UC office but maybe this would be easier.
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NebulaNomad
Heres a tip nobody mentioned - WRITE DOWN YOUR MAIN POINTS! I got so nervous during my hearing that I forgot half the stuff I wanted to say. I wish I had just made a simple list of bullet points to glance at. Oh and mute your phone when your not talking, background noise is super distracting.
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Anastasia Popova
•This is excellent advice. I had my key points and dates written down and it helped tremendously. The referee may jump around with questions, so having your facts organized helps you stay consistent.
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Luca Ferrari
I handle unemployment matters for a mid-size company, and I can tell you that preparation is key. Make sure you understand exactly what your employer is claiming. If they're saying you voluntarily quit but you were laid off due to lack of work, you need to clearly articulate that discrepancy. The burden of proof is generally on the employer in these cases, especially if they're challenging an already-approved claim. Also, the referee is required to make their decision based solely on testimony and evidence presented during the hearing, so don't assume they know anything about your case beforehand. Be respectful, don't interrupt, and answer questions directly. If you don't know an answer, it's better to say "I don't recall" than to guess. One last thing - if you haven't received the appeal paperwork filed by your employer, you have the right to request that information before the hearing. You should know exactly what they're claiming so you can prepare your response.
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CosmicCadet
•This is really helpful - thank you! I did get some paperwork that has their appeal statement. They're claiming I "abandoned my position after expressing dissatisfaction" which is completely untrue. They eliminated my whole department and told us all on the same day!
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Diego Mendoza
did they give u anything in writing when they laid u off?? thats GOLD if u have it. bring that!!!
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CosmicCadet
•They sent a follow-up email confirming my last day and mentioning the "workforce reduction" - definitely bringing that! Just realized I should probably print it out since the hearing is by phone. Not sure how to share documents in that format?
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Anastasia Popova
About sharing documents - the notice should have instructions for submitting evidence before the hearing. There's usually a fax number or email address. You should submit that email ASAP so it's part of the official record. If you haven't already, call the referee's office (number should be on the notice) and ask about the procedure for submitting evidence. They may tell you that you need to send copies to your employer too. And regarding your earlier question about paying back benefits if you lose - they typically set up a repayment plan, you wouldn't have to pay it all back at once. But honestly, if you have documentation showing you were laid off due to workforce reduction, your chances are very good. Stay confident!
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CosmicCadet
•Thank you! I'll call tomorrow morning about submitting that email evidence. And that's a relief about the repayment plan, though I'm really hoping it doesn't come to that!
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Chloe Harris
Just wanted to add - keep your answers focused on facts rather than emotions. It's easy to get worked up when someone is mischaracterizing your separation, but referees respond best to clear, factual statements. For example, instead of "They're lying about me quitting!", say "On March 15, Mr. Smith informed me and my colleagues that our positions were being eliminated due to reduced client contracts. He specifically used the term 'workforce reduction' and stated it was not related to our performance." Also, if your former employer says something that isn't true, make a note and wait for your turn to respond. The referee will give you an opportunity to address their statements. Good luck with your hearing - come back and let us know how it goes!
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CosmicCadet
•This is really good advice - I definitely tend to get emotional when I feel like I'm being treated unfairly. I'll practice giving factual responses before Thursday. And yes, I'll update after the hearing! Thanks everyone for all the helpful tips!
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