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Zoe Wang

Can I get PA unemployment if fired for 'lack of motivation'? Need answers fast

I just lost my job at a warehouse last week after my supervisor said I had a 'lack of motivation.' I've been there for 9 months and never received any written warnings before this happened. They just called me into the office on Friday and said they were letting me go because I 'didn't seem motivated enough' and 'wasn't meeting expectations.' But they never gave me specific examples or put me on any performance improvement plan. Is this considered misconduct that would disqualify me from UC benefits? I need to file ASAP since rent is due in 2 weeks and I'm already stressed about finding a new job. Has anyone dealt with similar termination reasons and successfully claimed benefits in PA?

Being fired for 'lack of motivation' without any prior written warnings actually works in your favor for PA UC. What matters is whether your actions rise to the level of 'willful misconduct' which is what disqualifies you. General dissatisfaction with your performance without documentation typically doesn't meet that standard. File your claim immediately and be honest about the reason - just state exactly what they told you. When your employer responds, PA UC will make a determination. Don't wait to file though, as benefits start from when you file, not when you lost your job.

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Zoe Wang

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Thanks for this info. I'll file today. Should I mention that they never gave me any written warnings or performance reviews during my time there? And do you know how long it usually takes to get a determination after filing?

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Grace Durand

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i went thru almost the same thing last year! my boss said i wasnt 'enthusiastic enough' lol. got my benefits no problem. key thing is they didnt give u warnings or write ups. just be super honest when u file ur claim

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Zoe Wang

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That's reassuring to hear! Did you have to wait long for your claim to be processed? I'm getting nervous about the bills piling up.

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Steven Adams

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MAKE SURE you tell them EXACTLY what happened!!! PA UC loves to DENY people for ANY little reason they can find! I got denied the first time because they said I wasn't specific enough about why I lost my job. Definitely say they never gave you warnings!!! And keep a record of EVERYTHING, save any emails or texts from your boss. I learned the hard way that employers will sometimes lie about why they fired you to avoid paying UC!!!!!

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Alice Fleming

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This isn't entirely accurate. While it's true you should be honest and thorough when filing, PA UC doesn't deny claims without cause. They evaluate based on specific legal criteria for willful misconduct. The burden is actually on the employer to prove misconduct, not on the claimant to prove eligibility. That said, documentation is always helpful.

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Hassan Khoury

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good luck with ur claim. hope it works out for u

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Alice Fleming

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You should qualify in this situation. Here's why: 1. PA defines willful misconduct as a deliberate violation of employer rules, disregard of standards of behavior an employer can reasonably expect, or negligence showing an intentional disregard of the employer's interest. 2. "Lack of motivation" without specific documented examples is subjective and generally considered poor performance rather than misconduct. 3. The absence of prior warnings is significant - UC typically looks for patterns of behavior the employee was warned about but continued. When filing, include these key details: - Your length of employment (9 months) - The specific reason given for termination (exact wording if possible) - The lack of prior warnings or disciplinary actions - Any positive performance feedback you received If your employer contests it, you'll receive a notice of determination with appeal rights. Keep an eye on your dashboard for any messages requiring response.

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Zoe Wang

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Thanks for laying it out so clearly! I just submitted my initial claim and included all those details. Crossing my fingers they don't contest it, but I feel more prepared now if they do.

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When I filed my PA unemployment claim last month, I got stuck in this awful loop of busy signals for THREE DAYS trying to reach a real person to ask questions. Finally used this service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that got me connected to a UC rep in like 20 minutes. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/CEPETxZdo9E?si=WL1ZzVZWG3KiHrg2. After talking to the rep, I found out my employer was contesting my claim which is why it was taking so long. Might be worth checking out if you run into issues reaching anyone.

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Grace Durand

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was just gonna suggest this! saved me hours of redial torture when my claim got stuck with an 'open issue' for weeks

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Benjamin Kim

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My situation was kind of similar to yours back in January. Honestly, the term "lack of motivation" is so vague that UC representatives will likely need more details from your employer. In my case, when the UC office contacted my former boss, they couldn't provide specific examples of misconduct, just general complaints about my attitude. I was approved after about 3 weeks. One thing - make sure you're completing your weekly certifications even while waiting for a decision! I messed this up and lost a week of benefits.

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Zoe Wang

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That's a great tip about the weekly certifications - I wouldn't have known to do that while waiting. Did you have to do the work search activities right away too, or does that start after approval?

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Just checking back - have you filed your claim yet? Remember that in PA you must register for PA CareerLink within 30 days of filing your initial claim. You'll also need to complete and document at least 6 work search activities per week (applying to jobs, attending job fairs, creating a resume, etc.).

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Zoe Wang

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Yes, I filed yesterday! I also registered with PA CareerLink right after. I've started applying to jobs today - already submitted 3 applications. Thanks for the reminder about the 6 activities per week requirement. I'm keeping track of everything in a spreadsheet so I don't mess anything up.

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Hassan Khoury

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my brother had the same thing happen and they denied him but then he appealed and won so dont give up if they say no at first

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Steven Adams

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THIS!! Appeals work more often than people think!!! The system is DESIGNED to make you give up!!!

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Zoe Wang

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Update: I got a notice saying my employer is contesting my claim, saying I was "disengaged at work" and "refused to participate in team activities." None of this was ever mentioned to me when they fired me! They're now claiming they gave me verbal warnings which is NOT true. I'm so stressed - what should I do next?

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Alice Fleming

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Don't panic - this is actually pretty common. Here's what to do: 1. Respond to the UC notice immediately with your side of the story 2. Be specific: "I was never given any verbal warnings about these issues" 3. Request a hearing where you can present your case 4. Gather any evidence that might help: good performance reviews, emails with positive feedback, etc. 5. If you have coworkers willing to support your version of events, ask if they'd provide statements The key here is that your employer needs to prove willful misconduct. Without documentation of warnings or a clear policy you violated, they face an uphill battle. Stay calm and respond factually without emotional language.

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This exact thing happened to me! When it went to the hearing, the UC referee asked my employer for PROOF of these verbal warnings - like dates, what was said, who was present, etc. They couldn't provide anything concrete and just kept saying vague things about my "attitude." The referee ruled in my favor because they had no documentation. Make sure you attend your hearing and stay professional - it makes a huge difference!

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Zoe Wang

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That's encouraging to hear! I'll definitely attend the hearing and keep everything professional. Did you have a lawyer or did you represent yourself?

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Benjamin Kim

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Good news! Just got the determination letter today and I was APPROVED! The UC examiner said my employer didn't provide sufficient evidence that I committed willful misconduct. They said performance issues without proper documentation and warnings don't constitute misconduct under PA law. Thank you everyone for your help and support through this stressful process! First payment should arrive next week.

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Excellent news! Make sure you continue filing your weekly certifications and documenting your work search activities. Glad it worked out for you!

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Nia Jackson

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Congratulations! This is such a relief to read. Your case gives me hope since my situation sounds almost identical. I'm still waiting for my determination letter after my employer contested my claim with similar vague accusations. It's reassuring to know that PA UC actually does look for real evidence of misconduct rather than just taking the employer's word for it. Thanks for sharing the positive outcome!

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