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Omar Farouk

Who is exempt from paying unemployment taxes - confused about NYS Department of Labor requirements

I just started a small business and I'm trying to figure out the unemployment tax situation. I keep reading conflicting information about who has to pay unemployment taxes and who doesn't. Some sources say certain types of employers are exempt but I can't find clear info about NYS Department of Labor requirements specifically. My accountant mentioned something about agricultural workers and family businesses but I'm still confused. Does anyone know the actual exemptions for unemployment taxes in New York? I don't want to mess this up and get hit with penalties later.

CosmicCadet

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There are several exemptions from NYS Department of Labor unemployment taxes. Agricultural employers with fewer than 10 employees in 20 weeks or who paid less than $20,000 in wages are generally exempt. Domestic workers earning less than $500 per quarter from a single employer are also exempt. Religious organizations, some non-profits, and family businesses where you only employ immediate family members may qualify for exemptions too. You'll want to check the specific NYS Department of Labor guidelines since the rules can be complex.

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Omar Farouk

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Thanks! That helps clarify things. I employ my spouse and one non-family member, so sounds like I probably don't qualify for the family business exemption.

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Chloe Harris

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Just went through this myself last year. The key thing is understanding that most regular businesses DO have to pay unemployment taxes once they meet the threshold requirements. In NY, if you have employees who earned $300 or more in any calendar quarter, you're generally required to register and pay. The exemptions are pretty specific and don't apply to most typical business situations.

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Diego Mendoza

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wait so even if I only have part time employees I still have to pay unemployment taxes??

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Chloe Harris

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Yes, if they earn over $300 in a quarter from your business, you're required to pay unemployment taxes on their wages. Part-time vs full-time doesn't matter for NYS Department of Labor tax purposes.

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Zara Shah

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omg this unemployment tax stuff is so confusing! I thought only big companies had to worry about this but apparently even small businesses get hit with all these requirements. The NYS Department of Labor website is like reading a foreign language sometimes.

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NebulaNomad

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Don't forget about independent contractors - they're generally exempt from unemployment tax requirements since they're not considered employees. But you have to be really careful about classification because NYS Department of Labor is cracking down on misclassification issues. If someone should be classified as an employee but you treat them as a contractor, you could be liable for back taxes and penalties.

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NebulaNomad

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Adding to what others have said - one thing that caught me off guard was that the exemptions can change if your business grows. For example, if you start as a family business employing only relatives but later hire outside employees, you might lose that exemption status. Also, some exemptions have annual wage thresholds that reset each year, so you need to monitor your payroll carefully. I'd recommend keeping detailed records from day one and maybe consulting with a payroll specialist who knows NYS Department of Labor requirements inside and out. It's one of those areas where being proactive can save you major headaches down the road.

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Yuki Tanaka

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This is really helpful advice about monitoring changes in exemption status! I hadn't thought about how hiring non-family members later could affect my current exemption. Do you know if there's a grace period when you transition from exempt to non-exempt status, or do you have to register immediately once you cross that threshold?

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