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Maya Patel

Need help identifying what type of unemployment each individual faces - NYS Department of Labor classification question

I'm working on a school project about unemployment types and need to classify different situations for NYS Department of Labor purposes. I know there's structural, cyclical, frictional, and seasonal unemployment but I'm getting confused about how to identify which type applies to specific cases. Does anyone know how the NYS Department of Labor actually categorizes these when processing claims? I need to understand the differences for my economics class assignment.

The NYS Department of Labor doesn't really classify claims by unemployment type the way economics textbooks do. When you file for UI benefits, they're more concerned with whether you're eligible (lost job through no fault of your own, able and available to work, etc.) rather than the economic theory behind why unemployment exists. For your project though: frictional is between jobs by choice, structural is skills mismatch, cyclical is recession-related, seasonal is predictable industry patterns.

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That makes sense! So the NYS Department of Labor focuses on eligibility rather than economic categories. Do you know if they track any statistics on unemployment types for research purposes?

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i think seasonal unemployment is pretty obvious - like construction workers in winter or beach resort staff after summer. the nys department of labor definitely knows about this because they have special rules for certain seasonal industries

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Ava Kim

For your school project, you might want to look at Bureau of Labor Statistics data rather than NYS Department of Labor claim categories. The BLS tracks unemployment by reason which is closer to what you're studying. Structural unemployment would be like factory workers whose jobs got automated, cyclical would be layoffs during the 2008 recession, frictional is voluntary job searching, and seasonal is predictable industry cycles.

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This is really helpful! I was struggling with the structural vs cyclical distinction. So if someone gets laid off because their company downsized due to economic recession, that's cyclical not structural?

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Thanks for the tip! I might try that if I need more specific data for my research paper.

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The NYS Department of Labor system is so confusing even for basic claims, I can't imagine they care about academic unemployment categories. When I was on unemployment last year they just wanted to know if I was fired or laid off, not whether it was cyclical or structural lol

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To clarify the definitions for your assignment: Frictional unemployment includes people voluntarily between jobs or new graduates searching for first jobs. Structural occurs when worker skills don't match available jobs due to technology changes or industry shifts. Cyclical happens during economic downturns when overall demand for labor decreases. Seasonal unemployment follows predictable patterns in industries like agriculture, tourism, or retail during holidays.

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Perfect explanation! This really helps me understand how to categorize the examples in my assignment. Thanks everyone for the help with understanding both the academic concepts and how NYS Department of Labor actually works.

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