NY unemployment eligibility after job loss due to vaccine refusal - considered termination?
I'm in a difficult situation and not sure where I stand with unemployment. My employer just implemented a mandatory covid vaccine policy, and I've decided I don't want to get it. They told me that if I don't comply by next month (March 2025), I'll no longer be able to work there. This isn't me quitting, right? Would NY unemployment consider this being terminated for not following workplace requirements? Or could I qualify since I didn't voluntarily quit? Really stressing about this since I have bills to pay but don't want to get the vaccine.
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Oliver Becker
This is a tricky situation with NY unemployment. Generally, if you're terminated for not following company policy, it can be considered misconduct, which would disqualify you from benefits. The NYSDOL typically views refusal to comply with an employer's reasonable workplace requirements as grounds for denial. For unemployment purposes, a mandatory vaccine policy that applies to all employees could be considered a reasonable workplace requirement, especially in certain industries. However, each case is evaluated individually. If you have a documented medical or religious exemption that your employer refused to accommodate, you might have a stronger case. Otherwise, the NYSDOL will likely consider this a voluntary separation since you're essentially choosing not to meet a condition of employment.
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Amina Bah
•But I'm not choosing to leave - they're making me leave because of a new policy they just implemented! I've been there for 3 years with no issues. This doesn't seem fair that I'd be denied benefits when I'm not quitting.
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Natasha Petrova
same thing happened to my cousin last month. they denied his claim becuz they said he could have kept his job if he wanted to. its BS if u ask me
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Amina Bah
•Did your cousin appeal the decision? I'm wondering if it's even worth applying if I'm just going to get denied.
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Javier Hernandez
From my experience working with similar cases, NY unemployment treats this as a voluntary separation even though it feels forced to you. It's considered a choice between complying with policy or leaving. I've seen a few people win appeals if they have legitimate medical exemptions with documentation, but general objections typically don't succeed. One thing worth noting - if your employer offers alternative accommodations (like remote work or testing options) and you refuse those too, that significantly weakens your case. Are they offering any alternative options besides vaccination?
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Amina Bah
•They're offering weekly testing as an alternative, but I'd have to pay for it myself which would cost around $150/week. That's basically a huge pay cut that I can't afford either.
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Emma Davis
I WENT THROUGH THIS EXACT THING!!! Applied for benefits and got DENIED IMMEDIATELY! Then appealed and had the most RIDICULOUS hearing where they acted like I was some kind of criminal for not wanting something injected into MY BODY. The system is completely rigged against workers. They'll find ANY excuse to deny benefits we paid into!!
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Oliver Becker
•While I understand your frustration, I want to clarify something for others reading: Unemployment insurance is primarily funded by employer taxes, not employee contributions in New York. The legal standard isn't about personal choice but about workplace requirements and misconduct definitions. The system has specific guidelines they must follow.
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LunarLegend
Have you tried talking to your HR department about possible accommodations? Some employers are more flexible than their initial policy suggests. I was facing a similar requirement at my last job and managed to negotiate a temporary remote position while the policy was in effect. Worth exploring all options before making a decision that affects your income.
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Amina Bah
•I did talk to HR yesterday and they said the policy applies to everyone, even remote workers. They said it's for when we occasionally need to come into the office for meetings. I feel like they're not being reasonable at all.
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Malik Jackson
my brother in law was in this same boat he couldnt get unemployment at first bc they said he chose not to follow company rules. he appealed and got denied again but then he found this service called Claimyr that got him through to a actual person at NY unemployment who explained exactly what documents he needed to submit for his situation. check out claimyr.com or their video https://youtu.be/Rdqa1gKtxuE cause waiting on the phone line is literally impossible rn
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Natasha Petrova
•is that service legit? seems kinda sketchy to pay someone just to talk to unemployment??
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Malik Jackson
•yeah its legit they just connect u to an agent fast instead of waiting for hours or getting hung up on. they dont ask for any personal info besides ur phone number to call u back when theyre connecting u
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Isabella Oliveira
This might be an uphill battle with NY unemployment, honestly. The DOL generally considers policy non-compliance as disqualifying. If you're dead-set against the vaccine, you might want to start job hunting now rather than counting on unemployment. The job market in NY has a lot of remote positions that don't have vaccine requirements. Just being practical here - might be better to secure new employment before your current job ends.
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Amina Bah
•You're probably right. I've started applying for other jobs just in case. Still feels wrong that I'm being forced out of a job I've had for years and might not get any support during the transition.
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Oliver Becker
One more important thing to consider: document everything. Save emails about the policy, any communication with HR, details about accommodations requested/denied, etc. If you do apply for benefits and need to appeal, having this documentation will be crucial. Also, make sure you understand exactly how your employer plans to process your separation - the specific wording they use (termination, job abandonment, voluntary resignation) can impact your claim.
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Amina Bah
Thank you all for the advice. I'm going to try applying anyway when the time comes and make sure I document everything leading up to my last day. Will probably use that Claimyr service to actually reach someone since it sounds impossible to get through otherwise. If anyone has successfully navigated this specific situation I'd really appreciate hearing what worked. This whole thing is so stressful.
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Javier Hernandez
•Good plan. One last tip: in your application, focus on your willingness to work and avoid framing it as refusing a requirement. Instead, emphasize that you were satisfactorily performing your job duties and that circumstances beyond your control led to your separation. The nuance in how you present your case can sometimes make a difference.
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