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Olivia Garcia

Can you collect unemployment if you refuse a pay cut - NYS Department of Labor rules?

My employer just informed our entire department that they're cutting everyone's salary by 30% effective next month due to budget constraints. They're saying it's either take the pay cut or we'll have layoffs. I'm thinking about refusing and seeing if I can get unemployment benefits instead. Does anyone know if NYS Department of Labor considers refusing a significant pay cut as good cause for quitting? I've been at this job for 4 years and my current salary is $52,000 so this would drop me to about $36,400. That's a huge difference for my family budget.

Noah Lee

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In New York, you may be eligible for unemployment benefits if you quit for good cause. A substantial reduction in pay can qualify as good cause, but NYS Department of Labor will evaluate each case individually. Generally, a reduction of 20% or more is considered substantial. Since your cut is 30%, you'd likely have a strong case. You'll need to document everything - the notice from your employer, your current pay rate, the proposed new rate, and any communications about the change.

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Olivia Garcia

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Thank you! Do I need to actually refuse the pay cut first and then quit, or can I just quit when they implement it? Also, should I file for unemployment immediately after quitting or wait?

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Ava Hernandez

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I went through something similar last year when my company cut salaries by 25%. I quit and filed for UI benefits. The key is documenting everything properly. NYS Department of Labor approved my claim but it took about 3 weeks because they had to investigate whether I had good cause. Make sure you keep copies of all communications about the pay cut and be prepared to explain why the reduction makes the job unsuitable.

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Did you have to go through adjudication? I'm curious how long the whole process took from filing to actually receiving benefits.

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Ava Hernandez

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Yes, my claim went into adjudication for about 2 weeks while they reviewed my case. Once they determined I had good cause for quitting, my benefits were approved retroactively. The whole process from filing to first payment was about 5 weeks.

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WAIT hold on everyone... are you sure about this?? I thought if you quit you automatically can't get unemployment no matter what the reason is. This is confusing because I've always heard you have to be fired or laid off to qualify for benefits.

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Noah Lee

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That's a common misconception. NYS Department of Labor does allow unemployment benefits for people who quit with good cause. Good cause includes things like substantial pay cuts, unsafe working conditions, harassment, or significant changes to job duties. The key is proving you had no reasonable alternative but to quit.

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Sophia Miller

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Olivia Garcia

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That sounds helpful! I've been dreading trying to call NYS Department of Labor because everyone says the wait times are horrible.

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Mason Davis

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Just wanted to add that you should also document any changes to your job responsibilities or working conditions that came along with the pay cut announcement. Sometimes employers try to claim that the reduced pay comes with reduced responsibilities to justify it. NYS Department of Labor will want to see the full picture of how your employment situation changed.

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Mia Rodriguez

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good luck!! this whole situation sucks but at least you have options. definitely document everything like everyone said.

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One thing to consider is whether your employer is offering any kind of severance package if you choose not to accept the pay cut. Sometimes companies will offer a small severance to employees who refuse the new terms, which could buy you some time while your unemployment claim is being processed. Also, make sure you understand exactly when the pay cut takes effect - if they're giving you advance notice, you might want to use that time to start looking for other positions just in case. Even if you qualify for unemployment benefits, they typically only replace a portion of your lost wages, so having backup options is always smart.

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Chloe Martin

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That's really good advice about asking for severance! I hadn't thought about that possibility. You're right that even with unemployment benefits I'd probably only get a fraction of my current salary, so having some severance to bridge the gap would be helpful. I should definitely ask HR if they're offering anything like that to people who don't accept the pay cut. And yes, I'm already starting to dust off my resume and reach out to my network - better to be proactive than wait and see what happens with the unemployment claim.

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Harold Oh

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I'm in a similar situation where my company is cutting salaries across the board. From what I've researched, NYS Department of Labor considers a pay reduction of 20% or more as "constructive dismissal" which can qualify you for benefits. The important thing is to file your claim as soon as possible after you quit - don't wait because there can be delays in processing. Also, when you file, make sure to clearly explain that you quit due to a substantial reduction in wages and provide the exact percentages and dollar amounts. They'll likely ask for documentation from your employer too, so keep copies of everything. The weekly benefit amount will be based on your original salary, not the reduced amount, which is good news for you.

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TechNinja

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This is really reassuring to hear from someone going through the same thing! I didn't know that the weekly benefit amount would be based on my original salary rather than the reduced amount - that's definitely good news. Quick question: when you say to file as soon as possible after quitting, do you mean literally the same day or within a few days? I want to make sure I get the timing right since you mentioned there can be delays in processing. Also, did you end up accepting the pay cut first and then quitting, or did you refuse it outright and quit before it took effect?

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Santiago Diaz

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I actually just went through this exact situation about 6 months ago! My employer cut salaries by 28% and I was terrified about quitting and losing benefits. But I ended up qualifying for unemployment after documenting everything properly. One tip that really helped me was to send an email to HR/management asking them to confirm the pay cut details in writing - this created a paper trail that NYS Department of Labor found very helpful during my claim review. Also, don't feel pressured to make an immediate decision if they're giving you time to consider. Use that time to gather all your documentation, maybe consult with a lawyer if you can, and prepare your case. The stress is awful but you do have legitimate options here. My benefits were approved after about 4 weeks of review, and looking back I'm so glad I didn't just accept the pay cut out of fear.

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Emma Johnson

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Thank you so much for sharing your experience! It's really helpful to hear from someone who actually went through this successfully. That's a great tip about asking HR to confirm the pay cut details in writing - I definitely want to make sure I have solid documentation. Can I ask what your weekly benefit amount ended up being compared to your original salary? I'm trying to get a realistic idea of what to expect financially if I go this route. Also, did you have to deal with any pushback from your employer when you quit, or were they pretty understanding given the circumstances?

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StarGazer101

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I'm dealing with a similar situation at my company right now - they just announced a 25% pay cut for everyone in our department. Reading through everyone's experiences here has been incredibly helpful, especially knowing that NYS Department of Labor does recognize substantial pay cuts as good cause for quitting. I've been with my company for 3 years and this would drop my salary from $48,000 to $36,000, which would make it impossible for me to cover my rent and basic expenses. I'm planning to start documenting everything immediately like you all suggested - the original announcement, my current pay stubs, and any follow-up communications. It's scary to think about quitting, but it sounds like there's a real path forward with unemployment benefits if I handle it properly. Thanks for sharing all your experiences and advice - it's making me feel less alone in this difficult situation.

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Nora Bennett

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I'm so sorry you're going through this too! It's really tough when companies put employees in these impossible positions. Your salary drop from $48k to $36k is definitely substantial enough to qualify under the 20%+ rule that others have mentioned. I'd also suggest keeping track of any meetings or conversations about the pay cut, not just written communications - even notes about verbal discussions can be helpful evidence. One thing I'm wondering about for all of us in this situation is whether we should try to negotiate with our employers first (like asking for reduced hours instead of reduced pay) before quitting, or if that might actually hurt our unemployment claims? It sounds like having a clear paper trail showing the company gave us an ultimatum is important for proving we had no reasonable alternative.

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Cedric Chung

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I'm a labor law attorney and wanted to add some legal perspective to this discussion. You're all on the right track - New York does recognize "constructive discharge" when employers make substantial unilateral changes to employment terms. A 30% pay cut definitely qualifies as substantial under NYS case law. However, there are some important timing considerations: 1) Don't accept even one paycheck at the reduced rate if possible, as this could be seen as accepting the new terms, 2) File your unemployment claim within the same week you quit, and 3) Be prepared for the employer to contest your claim - they often do in these situations. Also keep in mind that unemployment benefits in NY are typically 50% of your average weekly wage (up to the maximum), so plan your finances accordingly. Document everything, including any verbal communications, and consider sending a formal resignation letter clearly stating you're resigning due to the substantial reduction in compensation. This creates a clear record of your reasoning.

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Amina Bah

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This is incredibly valuable legal insight - thank you so much for weighing in! The point about not accepting even one paycheck at the reduced rate is really important and something I hadn't considered. If my employer implements the pay cut next month, I should resign before that first reduced paycheck rather than working at the lower rate and then quitting later, correct? Also, when you mention that employers often contest these claims, what does that process typically look like from the employee's perspective? Should I expect to have to provide testimony or attend any kind of hearing? I want to be as prepared as possible since this is already such a stressful situation.

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