Why was I taxed significantly more on my second sales commission paycheck?
I work in sales with commission-based pay, so my paychecks fluctuate every week. First paycheck breakdown: - $14.8k gross before taxes - 6% after-tax contribution to my Roth 401k - Total taxes taken out: $3,950 - Take home amount: $9.9k Second paycheck breakdown: - $17.3k gross before taxes - 7% after-tax contribution to Roth 401k - Total taxes taken out: $5,600 - Take home pay: $10.4k I'm really confused. I earned about $2.5k more in gross pay, but my taxes jumped by $1,650, which meant my actual take-home only increased by $500. That seems way out of proportion. Is there some kind of threshold for single paychecks where you suddenly get taxed at a much higher rate? Like if you cross from $15k to $17k per check? I'm wondering if it would make more financial sense to contribute more to my traditional pre-tax 401k to keep my taxable income below whatever this threshold might be. Any insights would be appreciated!
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Tyler Lefleur
This is due to withholding calculations on your paycheck. The payroll system treats each paycheck as if that's what you make every pay period for the entire year. So when your second check was larger, the system calculated withholding as if you would make that higher amount all year long, which could put you into a higher projected tax bracket. For example, if you're paid biweekly and your first check was $14.8k, the system projects an annual income of about $385k. With your second check at $17.3k, it projects an annual income of about $450k, which crosses into a higher federal tax bracket.
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Madeline Blaze
•Wait so does that mean they're taking too much out overall? Will OP get that extra money back when they file taxes next year? Seems unfair to have such a big jump.
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Camila Jordan
•That makes a lot of sense now. So it's not actually a hard threshold, but rather the payroll system doing some rough projections. If I understand correctly, this doesn't necessarily mean I'll owe more taxes overall at the end of the year, right? It's just about how much is being withheld now? I'm also wondering if increasing my traditional pre-tax 401k contributions would help reduce this withholding effect when I have these larger commission checks?
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Tyler Lefleur
•That's exactly right - it's just about withholding, not your final tax bill. At tax time, everything gets recalculated based on your actual annual income, regardless of how it was distributed throughout the year. So yes, you'll likely get some of that money back when you file. Increasing pre-tax 401k contributions would definitely help with this issue. Since those contributions reduce your taxable income, they'll lower the amount withheld for taxes on each paycheck. This is especially effective for those occasional larger paychecks where the withholding calculation would otherwise push you into a higher projected bracket.
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Lucy Lam
From what I understand about how payroll works, the system uses tax withholding tables based on the current check amount. The higher check makes the system think "oh this person is going to make $X annually" and withholds accordingly. One thing to consider - your Roth 401k contributions are after-tax, so they don't reduce your withholding. Have you thought about switching some of your contributions to traditional pre-tax 401k? That would lower your taxable income and potentially keep you from hitting those higher withholding percentages on big commission checks.
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Camila Jordan
•I've been considering that switch actually. Do you know if there's an optimal balance between Roth and traditional contributions for someone with variable income? My base salary is pretty consistent but these commission checks can range wildly from $5k to $20k depending on the month.
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Lucy Lam
•For highly variable income like yours, many financial advisors suggest a hybrid approach. Use traditional pre-tax contributions during your high commission months to reduce the tax hit when you're temporarily pushed into higher brackets. Then use Roth contributions during lower income months when you're in a lower tax bracket. The general principle is to make traditional contributions when you're in a higher bracket than you expect to be in during retirement, and Roth contributions when you're in a lower bracket. With your variable income, you're effectively moving between brackets throughout the year, so you can strategically use both types of contributions.
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Aidan Hudson
Has anyone tried adjusting their W-4 to account for this? I'm in a similar situation with quarterly bonuses that get taxed like crazy. I heard you can put an additional amount on line 4(c) to reduce withholding, but I'm afraid of ending up owing a bunch at tax time.
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Zoe Wang
•I adjusted mine last year for my sales commissions. Put $200 on line 4(c) for reduced withholding. Ended up about right at tax time - got a small refund of $300. You have to be careful though and maybe do some math based on your total expected annual income. The IRS has a tax withholding estimator on their website that's pretty helpful.
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