< Back to IRS

Connor Byrne

Why is there no taxable amount showing on my 1099-R from my traditional IRA?

Title: Why is there no taxable amount showing on my 1099-R from my traditional IRA? 1 I received a 1099-R for a withdrawal from my traditional IRA and I'm confused about how to report it. The form shows a gross distribution amount, but box 2a (taxable amount) is empty. Box 4 shows 10% federal withholding, distribution code is 1 (early distribution with no known exceptions), and box 2b is checked indicating "taxable amount not determined." Everything I know about early withdrawals from traditional IRAs suggests this should be fully taxable plus the 10% early withdrawal penalty. But when I entered the 1099-R exactly as it appears into my tax software, it's not calculating any tax or penalty on the distribution because of the empty taxable amount box. Should I override what's on the 1099-R and manually enter the gross distribution amount as the taxable amount? I don't want to underpay and get in trouble, but I also don't want to pay tax if I don't have to. Has anyone dealt with this situation before?

8 This is actually a common issue with 1099-R forms. When box 2b is checked as "taxable amount not determined," it means the financial institution is leaving it up to you to determine the taxable portion based on your contribution history. For a traditional IRA, contributions are usually tax-deductible when made, which means distributions are generally fully taxable. However, if you've made any non-deductible contributions to your traditional IRA (which would have been reported on Form 8606 in prior years), then part of your distribution might not be taxable. If you've never made non-deductible contributions to your traditional IRA, then yes, you should report the entire gross distribution as taxable. The 10% early withdrawal penalty will also apply unless you qualify for an exception.

0 coins

12 Thanks for the explanation. I'm in a similar situation but I'm pretty sure I've only made deductible contributions to my IRA. The financial institution still left box 2a blank though. Do I need to call them and ask them to correct the form, or can I just report it as fully taxable on my return?

0 coins

8 You don't need to ask for a corrected 1099-R in this situation. The IRS expects you to determine the correct taxable amount based on your records when box 2b is checked. If you've only made deductible contributions, then you should report the entire gross distribution amount as taxable on your tax return. Your tax software should have a way to override the blank box 2a when entering the 1099-R information.

0 coins

15 I had the exact same problem last year with my IRA distribution! After hours of research and frustration, I finally found taxr.ai (https://taxr.ai) which helped me figure this out. Their system analyzed my 1099-R and contribution history and determined what should actually be reported as taxable. It turns out that the financial institution isn't required to determine the taxable amount if they don't have complete records of your contribution history (especially if the account was transferred from another custodian at some point). The tool helped me understand that in my case, since I had only made deductible contributions, the entire amount was taxable despite box 2a being empty.

0 coins

7 How exactly does taxr.ai work? Do you just upload your 1099-R and it tells you what to do? I'm skeptical about giving my tax documents to some random website.

0 coins

3 I'm also dealing with this issue but I have a mix of deductible and non-deductible contributions over the years. Would taxr.ai be able to handle that complexity or is it just for simpler cases?

0 coins

15 You upload your 1099-R and any relevant tax history documents, and it uses AI to analyze them and determine the correct taxable amount. They use bank-level encryption and don't store your documents after analysis, so security isn't an issue. For complex situations with mixed deductible and non-deductible contributions, that's actually where it really shines. It can help calculate your basis and determine the correct portion that should be taxable, which saves a ton of headache trying to figure out Form 8606 calculations yourself.

0 coins

3 Just wanted to update everyone - I decided to try taxr.ai after seeing it mentioned here, and it was incredibly helpful! My situation was pretty complicated with multiple rollovers and some non-deductible contributions over the years. The system analyzed my documents and helped me figure out exactly how much of my distribution was actually taxable. It even explained why the financial institution left box 2a blank (they truly didn't have enough information to make the determination). I was able to correctly fill out Form 8606 and properly report the taxable portion of my distribution. Definitely saved me from either overpaying taxes or potentially getting an audit notice for underreporting. Worth checking out if you're dealing with this situation!

0 coins

22 If you're having trouble getting clear answers from your financial institution about your 1099-R, you might want to try calling the IRS directly. I know, I know - getting through to them seems impossible! That's why I started using Claimyr (https://claimyr.com) after being on hold for hours multiple times. They somehow get you connected to an IRS agent quickly (you can see how it works here: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c). I was able to ask specifically about my blank 2a box situation and the agent confirmed that I needed to calculate the taxable portion myself based on my contribution history. They even walked me through how to determine if I had any non-deductible contributions.

0 coins

9 How does this service actually work? The IRS phone system is a nightmare with hours of wait time. Is this some kind of priority line or something?

0 coins

19 Sorry, but this sounds too good to be true. There's no way to "skip the line" for IRS phone support. They handle calls in the order received. I'm pretty sure this is just some scam trying to charge people for something that doesn't actually work.

0 coins

22 It's not a priority line - they use a technology that continuously redials and navigates the IRS phone tree for you. When they get through to an agent, they connect you immediately. You don't have to sit on hold - they call you when an agent is on the line. I was skeptical too until I tried it. I got connected to an IRS representative in about 45 minutes while going about my day, instead of being stuck on hold for 3+ hours like my previous attempts. The agent was able to answer my specific questions about the 1099-R situation and confirm I was handling it correctly.

0 coins

19 I have to eat my words about Claimyr. After posting my skeptical comment, I decided to try it myself since I had questions about my 1099-R situation that I couldn't resolve online. I was honestly shocked when I got a call back telling me an IRS agent was on the line. The agent confirmed that with a traditional IRA distribution where box 2a is blank and 2b is checked, I needed to determine the taxable amount based on whether I had made non-deductible contributions in the past. Since I hadn't, the entire distribution was taxable plus the 10% penalty since I'm under 59½. Saved me hours of hold time and potentially a lot of tax headache. Definitely not a scam like I initially thought.

0 coins

11 Another thing to watch out for - if you're filing with tax software, you need to make sure it's correctly handling the 1099-R with blank box 2a. I found that when I entered my 1099-R exactly as is (with blank 2a), TurboTax wasn't calculating any tax on it. I had to manually override and enter the gross distribution amount as the taxable amount. The software should have prompted me about this, but it didn't. Double-check your return to make sure it's correctly calculating tax on your distribution!

0 coins

6 Is that the case with all tax software? I'm using H&R Block and noticed the same thing - it didn't prompt me about the blank 2a box at all.

0 coins

11 I can't speak for all tax software, but I've heard similar issues with several major ones. The software tends to just use whatever is in box 2a without questioning it, even when box 2b is checked. When using H&R Block or any other software, you'll probably need to manually override the taxable amount. Usually there's a way to edit the entry after you input the 1099-R information. Look for something like "adjust this form" or "enter additional information.

0 coins

5 Just called my financial institution about this exact issue. They said they leave box 2a blank when they don't have complete records of all your contributions, especially if the account was transferred from another institution at some point in the past. They confirmed that for a traditional IRA, I should generally report the full amount as taxable unless I had made non-deductible contributions (which would have been reported on Form 8606 when made). The 10% early withdrawal penalty would also apply since the distribution code is 1.

0 coins

14 Thanks for sharing! Did they mention anything about whether they're required to fill in box 2a, or is leaving it blank and checking 2b totally legitimate from their perspective?

0 coins

They said it's completely legitimate for them to leave box 2a blank and check 2b when they don't have complete contribution history records. The IRS actually allows (and sometimes requires) this approach when the financial institution can't definitively determine the taxable portion. It puts the responsibility on the taxpayer to calculate it correctly based on their own records, which makes sense since you're the one who would know about any non-deductible contributions made over the years.

0 coins

This is such a helpful thread! I'm dealing with the exact same situation and was getting really frustrated trying to figure out what to do. My 1099-R has box 2a blank and 2b checked, and I was worried I was missing something important. Based on what everyone has shared here, it sounds like since I only made deductible contributions to my traditional IRA over the years, I should report the entire gross distribution as taxable income. I'll also need to pay the 10% early withdrawal penalty since I'm under 59½ and don't qualify for any exceptions. I'm using FreeTaxUSA and noticed the same issue others mentioned - the software didn't automatically flag this or calculate any tax when I entered the 1099-R as-is. I'll need to go back and manually override the taxable amount to match the gross distribution. Thanks for the heads up about that! One question though - should I be concerned about any potential audit issues if I override what's on the form? I want to make sure I'm handling this correctly from a compliance standpoint.

0 coins

You shouldn't be concerned about audit issues as long as you're reporting the correct taxable amount based on your actual contribution history. The IRS expects taxpayers to make this determination when box 2b is checked - that's exactly why financial institutions use this approach when they don't have complete records. Just make sure to keep good documentation of your contribution history in case you ever need to support your position. If you've only made deductible contributions over the years, then reporting the full gross distribution as taxable is absolutely the correct approach. The override in your tax software is legitimate and expected in this situation. Many people deal with this exact scenario every year, so you're definitely not alone or doing anything unusual!

0 coins

I'm a tax preparer and see this situation frequently during tax season. When box 2a is blank and box 2b is checked on a 1099-R, it's the IRS's way of saying "we're leaving this up to you to figure out." For traditional IRAs, here's the key question: Have you ever made non-deductible contributions? If the answer is no (meaning all your contributions were tax-deductible when you made them), then yes, the entire gross distribution amount is taxable. A few important points to remember: - You'll also owe the 10% early withdrawal penalty since you have distribution code 1 - Keep records showing your contribution history in case of questions later - Most tax software requires manual override in this situation - it won't calculate correctly automatically - This is completely normal and legitimate - you're not doing anything wrong by overriding the blank box If you're unsure about your contribution history, check your old tax returns for Form 8606 filings, which would indicate non-deductible contributions were made.

0 coins

This is really helpful information! I'm new to dealing with IRA distributions and was completely confused when I saw the blank box 2a on my 1099-R. I've been stressing about whether I needed to contact my financial institution to get a corrected form or if there was some mistake. Based on what you've explained, it sounds like I just need to look back at my tax returns to see if I ever filed Form 8606 for non-deductible contributions. I'm pretty sure I haven't, which means all my contributions were deductible and the full distribution should be taxable. One quick follow-up question - when you say "keep records showing your contribution history," what specific documents should I be holding onto? Just my annual IRA contribution receipts, or are there other documents I should maintain?

0 coins

IRS AI

Expert Assistant
Secure

Powered by Claimyr AI

T
I
+
20,087 users helped today