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Eli Butler

Why am I paying $625 in taxes on $0 taxable income? Something's not adding up!

I'm really confused about my tax situation this year and hoping someone can help make sense of this. I just finished my tax return and somehow I'm being told I owe $625 despite having $0 in taxable income! How is this even possible? My situation: I'm 26, single, and worked part-time while finishing my degree. After taking the standard deduction, my taxable income shows as $0. I double-checked everything multiple times and can't figure out where this tax bill is coming from. I didn't have any investment income, didn't sell any assets, and don't have any side businesses. Just regular W-2 income that was completely offset by the standard deduction. The tax software I'm using (TaxSlayer) keeps saying I owe, but doesn't clearly explain why. Has anyone run into something similar? Is this some kind of glitch or am I missing something obvious? Really don't want to pay $625 I might not actually owe!

This might be due to self-employment taxes. Even if your income falls below the standard deduction (meaning $0 federal income tax), you still owe Social Security and Medicare taxes (15.3% total) on any self-employment income over $400. Did you do any freelance work, gig economy jobs, or anything where you received a 1099-NEC instead of a W-2? Unlike W-2 jobs where these taxes are automatically withheld, with self-employment you're responsible for paying both the employer and employee portions of these taxes, which is why they can add up quickly. Another possibility is underpayment penalties if you had taxes due last year that weren't paid on time, or if you received advance premium tax credits for health insurance that need to be repaid. Check those sections of your return too.

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Eli Butler

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Ohhh wait, now that you mention it, I did drive for DoorDash for a few months last summer and got a 1099! I made about $4,200 from that which I included in my return, but I guess I didn't connect that to this tax bill. So even though my regular income + DoorDash still falls under the standard deduction, I still owe self-employment tax on the gig work?

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Yes, that's exactly it! The standard deduction only reduces your income tax, not your self-employment tax. Since you made $4,200 from DoorDash, you'll owe self-employment tax on that amount, which is roughly 15.3% of your net profit. That's about $642 if you didn't have many expenses to deduct, which matches closely with your $625 tax bill. The good news is you can deduct business expenses like mileage (58.5 cents per mile for 2023), a portion of your phone bill, and other direct costs that might reduce your net profit and therefore your tax bill. If you haven't already, make sure you complete Schedule C to report all your eligible business deductions.

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Make sure you're correctly filling out Schedule C for your self-employment income! A lot of people forget to deduct legitimate business expenses. For DoorDash specifically, you can deduct: - Mileage (58.5 cents per mile for 2023) - Portion of cell phone bill used for the app - Hot bags or delivery equipment - Car maintenance related to business use - Even a percentage of car insurance These deductions reduce your net self-employment income, which directly reduces the self-employment tax you owe. I reduced my self-employment taxes by almost 40% by properly tracking and claiming all eligible expenses.

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Eli Butler

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Thank you so much for this! Quick question - for the mileage deduction, can I estimate based on delivery distances, or do I need exact records? I didn't keep a detailed log but I know approximately how many deliveries I made and the average distance.

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For mileage, the IRS technically requires a contemporaneous log (meaning recorded at the time of the driving). But realistically, if you can create a reasonable reconstruction based on delivery records, app history, or even average distances with documentation of how many deliveries you made, that should be acceptable. For future reference, I recommend using a mileage tracking app like MileIQ or Stride that automatically logs your trips. For this year, create your best estimation based on whatever records you have - delivery totals, areas you typically delivered to, etc. Just be prepared to explain your methodology if ever questioned.

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Kolton Murphy

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Does anyone know if taxes from self-employment can be paid in installments if I can't afford to pay the full amount right now? I'm in a similar situation with about $580 due on gig work.

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Yes! The IRS offers payment plans. If you owe less than $50,000, you can easily set up an online payment agreement at irs.gov. For amounts under $10,000, approval is usually automatic if you can pay within 3 years and have filed all required returns. There's a small setup fee (around $31 if you do it online with direct debit), and you'll still accrue some interest and penalties, but they're much lower than not paying at all. Just make sure you file your return on time even if you can't pay the full amount - the penalty for not filing is much worse than the penalty for not paying.

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