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Sebastian Scott

Where to start with back taxes for self-employed friend who hasn't filed in a decade?

I'm trying to help my roommate sort out his financial mess and I'm completely lost. He's been working as a self-employed yoga instructor since 2017 and hasn't filed taxes for about 10 years. Yeah, I know - total disaster. I have no idea where to even begin getting him caught up without triggering some kind of IRS nightmare. Should we tackle this chronologically from 2017 forward? Or start with the most recent year (2021) and then work backwards? Is it better to submit all these years at once, or space them out every couple months? The biggest problem is he kept terrible financial records for those first few years. Like, barely anything. Can we make reasonable estimates where documentation is missing? This whole situation is giving me major anxiety. Any advice from someone who's navigated something similar would be incredibly helpful!

I help people with tax problems like this frequently. First, take a deep breath - this is fixable! The IRS actually deals with non-filers all the time. Start with the most recent tax years (2021, 2022) and work backward. The IRS is most concerned with recent compliance. For missing documentation, bank statements can be incredibly helpful - have your friend request these from his bank going back as far as possible. For the missing records, reasonable estimates are acceptable, but document your methodology. For a massage therapist, you can estimate income based on average clients per week × average fee, then estimate business expenses as a percentage. Keep notes on how you arrived at these figures. Don't submit all returns at once. File the most recent year first, then space out the others by 2-3 weeks. This gives the IRS time to process each return before receiving the next.

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Thanks so much for the detailed response! That makes a lot of sense to start with the recent years. Do you think we should use a CPA for this or can we manage it with tax software? Also, will the IRS automatically hit him with penalties for all these unfiled years?

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For complex situations like this, I definitely recommend a tax professional - either a CPA or Enrolled Agent who specializes in back taxes. They'll know exactly how to minimize penalties and navigate potential complications. The investment is worth it. Yes, there will likely be penalties for late filing and payment, but the IRS has various forgiveness programs that your friend might qualify for. First-time penalty abatement is available for people with otherwise clean compliance histories, and there are reasonable cause provisions that might apply if there were extenuating circumstances for why he didn't file.

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One thing nobody's mentioned yet - your friend should request his Wage and Income Transcripts from the IRS for all those years. This will show all income that was reported to the IRS on 1099s, W2s, etc. This gives you a starting point to know what income the IRS already knows about. You can request these transcripts online at irs.gov or by filing Form 4506-T. This helps ensure you don't miss any income that was reported to the IRS, which would definitely trigger notices or audits.

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Can you get these transcripts if you haven't filed for several years? I thought your online access gets restricted if you're not in compliance?

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You're right that online access might be restricted for non-filers. In that case, you can still get them by mail using Form 4506-T. It takes a few weeks but gives you exactly what income the IRS has on record. Even if your friend can't access his own transcripts directly, a tax professional with proper authorization (Form 2848 Power of Attorney) can access these transcripts on his behalf through the tax pro's account. This is another reason working with a professional is valuable in catch-up situations.

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Just wanted to add that I was in a similar situation (6 unfiled years as a freelancer) and the process wasn't nearly as scary as I thought. Definitely start with current year and work backwards, and be proactive about setting up payment plans if he owes. The IRS is actually pretty reasonable if YOU reach out to THEM before they come looking for you. It's when you ignore their notices that things get ugly with liens and levies.

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Did you get hit with huge penalties? I'm in a similar situation and I'm terrified of what I might owe with all the added penalties and interest.

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