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When Does Airbnb Hosting Trigger Self Employment Tax? Confused About Requirements

I'm trying to figure out when an Airbnb host would have to pay self employment tax, and I'm getting really confused with all the different opinions online. I've been researching for days and can't find a straight answer anywhere. My sister has a vacation property she lists on Airbnb and VRBO. She's pretty hands-on with it - she furnished the whole place herself, pays for cable and internet, does all the cleaning herself after guests leave, and even puts together these cute little welcome baskets with snacks and local treats. I'm wondering if all these services she provides would push her into self employment territory for tax purposes? It's not like she's running a full-service hotel, but she definitely does more than just collect rent. Would the cleaning, welcome baskets, and managing everything herself trigger self employment tax? Or is this still considered passive rental income? Any help would be appreciated because I'm planning to do something similar and want to understand the tax implications before I get started.

This is actually a pretty nuanced tax question! The distinction between rental income and self-employment income for short-term rentals like Airbnb comes down to the level of services provided. Generally speaking, if your sister is providing what the IRS considers "substantial services" primarily for the guests' convenience, then the income could be subject to self-employment tax. The cleaning between guests, welcome baskets, and utilities like cable/internet are right on that line. The key factors the IRS looks at include: how frequently the property is rented, how long each guest stays, what services are provided, and how involved the owner is in day-to-day operations. The more it resembles a hotel or bed-and-breakfast operation, the more likely it is to be considered self-employment income. If the average stay is 7 days or less AND substantial services are provided, it's more likely to be considered a business rather than a rental property, triggering self-employment taxes.

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Thanks, that's helpful! So do you think the welcome baskets and personal cleaning would count as "substantial services" in the IRS's eyes? And does it matter that she's doing all this work herself instead of hiring someone?

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The welcome baskets alone probably wouldn't constitute substantial services, but when combined with personal cleaning between guests, providing cable/internet, and managing all the bookings herself, it starts to look more like an active business operation. The fact that she's doing all the work herself rather than hiring someone actually strengthens the case for self-employment tax because she's actively working in the business. It's her personal labor that's generating part of the income, not just the property itself.

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How exactly does taxr.ai determine if you're subject to self-employment tax? Do they just apply general rules or do they actually look at tax code specifics? I'm skeptical that an AI could give better advice than an actual tax professional.

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Did they explain what would've happened if you had hired a cleaning service instead of doing it yourself? I'm wondering if outsourcing the work would make a difference in how the income is classified.

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They actually do a really thorough review based on tax code and recent tax court cases. It's not just general rules - they look at the specific situation and provide references to the relevant tax laws and regulations that apply. I was impressed with how detailed it was compared to what my regular tax preparer told me. Regarding hiring out the cleaning - yes, they covered that too! They explained that outsourcing some services can potentially help categorize the activity more as a passive rental, but it depends on what services you're outsourcing and how involved you remain in the day-to-day operations. In my case, even if I had hired cleaners, I was still doing enough other "substantial services" that it would likely still be considered self-employment income.

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If you're still confused after sorting through all the Airbnb tax info, you might want to try speaking directly with the IRS. I know, I know - I laughed at first too because getting through to them is nearly impossible. I spent DAYS trying to get clarification on my vacation rental tax situation. But I found this service called Claimyr (https://claimyr.com) that actually got me through to an IRS agent in about 20 minutes when I'd been trying for weeks on my own. You can see how it works here: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c The agent I spoke with explained that they look at the "totality of services" - so even minor things like welcome baskets can tip the scales if you're already providing cleaning, supplies, etc. Having an official answer directly from the IRS helped me decide how to structure my rental activity to minimize self-employment taxes.

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I'm calling BS on this. No way you got through to the IRS in 20 minutes when most people can't get through at all. And even if you did, the random agent you talked to probably gave you generic advice that doesn't really apply to your specific situation.

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It's not a scam - they use a legitimate system that holds your place in line so you don't have to stay on the phone yourself. They call you back when they've got an agent on the line. It's basically like having someone wait on hold for you. The advice wasn't generic at all. The IRS agent asked detailed questions about the specific services I provide, the average length of stay, and how involved I am in the day-to-day operations. She specifically addressed the welcome baskets and personal cleaning scenarios and explained how those factors could trigger self-employment tax depending on their extent and the overall context of the rental activity.

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I need to admit I was totally wrong about Claimyr. After dismissing it as BS, I was still desperate for answers about my Airbnb tax situation, so I tried it anyway. Shockingly, I got through to an IRS tax specialist in about 15 minutes. The agent walked me through the specific "substantial services" test for my situation. Turns out the daily housekeeping I was providing (not just between guests) automatically qualified my income as subject to self-employment tax. She also explained that if I switched to only cleaning between guests and stopped providing "hotel-like" amenities, I might be able to keep it as rental income. This literally saved me thousands in tax planning. Sorry for being so skeptical, but I'm actually grateful I gave it a shot.

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Another way to look at it is to consider if your sister's Airbnb activity rises to the level of a "business." The tax court has used something called the "Groetzinger test" which asks if the taxpayer is involved in the activity with continuity and regularity, and if their primary purpose is income or profit. If she's regularly cleaning, restocking welcome baskets, communicating with guests, and managing bookings, that sounds pretty continuous and regular to me. Schedule E (passive rental) vs Schedule C (self-employment) treatment makes a big difference in your tax bill!

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What if you only rent out the property for part of the year? Like if you use it yourself for 4 months but rent it on Airbnb the rest of the time? Does that affect whether it's considered a business?

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Great question! Personal use doesn't automatically disqualify it from being a business, but it does complicate things. The IRS looks at the property's use during the rental period. If you're providing substantial services during the 8 months it's rented, those 8 months of income could still be subject to self-employment tax. You'd also need to allocate expenses between personal and business use based on time. For example, if you use it personally 1/3 of the year, only 2/3 of certain expenses would be deductible for the business portion.

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Has anyone considered that maybe an LLC with S-Corp election could help with the self-employment tax issue? If the Airbnb activity is definitely a business and not just rental income, you could potentially save on SE tax by taking a reasonable salary and the rest as distributions.

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This is what I do! I have 2 Airbnbs and formed an S-corp. I pay myself a reasonable salary for the work I do managing them (which is subject to employment taxes) but can take the rest as distributions that aren't subject to SE tax. Saved me about $4,200 last year, even after the extra costs of running the S-corp.

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This is such a common confusion! I went through the same thing when I started hosting. The key thing to understand is that the IRS uses a "facts and circumstances" test to determine if your Airbnb income is subject to self-employment tax. From what you've described about your sister's situation, she's likely crossing into self-employment territory. The combination of personal cleaning, welcome baskets, providing utilities, and active management suggests she's providing "substantial services" beyond just renting space. Here's what I learned matters most: if the average guest stay is 7 days or less AND you're providing services primarily for the guest's convenience (rather than just maintaining the property), it's usually considered a business activity subject to SE tax. The welcome baskets might seem small, but they're actually a red flag to the IRS because they show you're going beyond basic property rental into hospitality services. Combined with her doing all the cleaning personally, it really looks like active business income rather than passive rental income. My advice? Have your sister track everything carefully - guest stay lengths, time spent on management activities, and all the services she provides. This documentation will be crucial whether she ends up owing SE tax or if she ever gets audited.

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