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Katherine Shultz

What tax scam is happening? My coworker's tax guy is getting everyone HUGE refunds that seem sketchy

So this situation at my job is making me really suspicious. My cubicle neighbor started using this new tax preparation guy last year and now he's convinced like 8 other people in our department to use him too. I'm hearing them all talk about their refunds and the numbers are INSANE. Like my friend Mark who makes about $63,000 is getting back almost $9,700?? Another coworker who has pretty straightforward taxes (single, rents apartment, one W-2) is supposedly getting like $7,400 back. I know enough about taxes to know these numbers don't make sense. They're all paying this guy $225 to do their returns and he's promising these giant refunds. When I asked how he's getting such big numbers, they just said he "knows all the tricks" and "finds deductions nobody else does." The tax guy apparently meets them at a Starbucks and does everything from his laptop. No office or anything. He's also telling them they need to get their refunds fast because "the IRS might change the rules." The whole thing sounds shady af to me, but I don't know what specific scam this might be. Has anyone seen this before? What kind of scam is this? I'm worried my coworkers are going to get audited or worse.

Marcus Marsh

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This has all the hallmarks of a fraudulent tax preparer. What's likely happening is this "tax guy" is falsely claiming deductions or credits your coworkers aren't actually eligible for. Common tactics include: 1) Falsely claiming business expenses on Schedule C when they're not self-employed 2) Making up charitable contributions 3) Inflating education expenses for education credits 4) Creating fictitious dependents 5) Falsely claiming the Earned Income Tax Credit The "meet at Starbucks" and "get refunds quickly before IRS changes rules" are huge red flags. Legitimate tax professionals don't operate this way. Your coworkers may get their big refunds initially, but the IRS has sophisticated systems to detect patterns of suspicious returns. Your friends could face serious consequences: repaying all refund money with interest, penalties of 20-75% of the unpaid tax, and potentially even criminal charges if they knowingly participated. The IRS typically has 3 years to audit, but for substantial underreporting, they can go back 6 years.

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Is the taxpayer still responsible even if they didn't know the preparer was being fraudulent? Like what if they just signed the return without checking everything?

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Marcus Marsh

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Yes, the taxpayer is still legally responsible for everything on their return even if they didn't know the preparer was being fraudulent. When you sign a tax return, you're declaring "under penalties of perjury" that you've examined the return and it's true, correct, and complete. The IRS may be somewhat more lenient if you can prove you were genuinely defrauded by the preparer, but you'll still have to repay the incorrect refund plus interest at minimum. This is why it's critical to review your return carefully before signing, even if a professional prepared it. If something seems too good to be true (like unusually large refunds), that's a major warning sign.

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Cedric Chung

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Cedric Chung

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PaulineW

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The situation you described is almost certainly a tax fraud scheme. Beyond what others have mentioned, I'd add that your coworkers will likely face IRS notices and potential audits within the next 18 months. When they try to contact the IRS about these problems, they'll discover the nightmare of actually getting through to someone who can help. After going through this myself, I discovered Claimyr (https://claimyr.com) which was an absolute lifesaver. Instead of waiting on hold for 3+ hours trying to reach the IRS (if you even get through at all), their service gets you to a real IRS agent typically within 15 minutes. You can see how it works in this video: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c When the audit notices start coming for your coworkers, having a way to actually speak with the IRS quickly will be invaluable. The sooner they address any issues, the less penalties and interest they'll face.

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Wait, how does this actually work? The IRS phone system is deliberately designed to make it impossible to reach anyone. How can some service magically get you through?

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Chris Elmeda

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Chris Elmeda

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I need to apologize for my skeptical comment earlier. After the tax mess I got into (similar to what OP described - used a "creative" tax preparer), I was desperate to talk to the IRS about the audit notice I received. Tried calling daily for two weeks with no success. Finally tried the Claimyr service mentioned here and I'm still in shock that it actually worked. Got a call back in about 22 minutes with an actual IRS representative on the line. Was able to set up a payment plan for the back taxes I owe from that fraudulent return situation. Saved me literally days of frustration, and the IRS agent was actually helpful once I could speak with them directly. If your coworkers end up getting audit notices (which they almost certainly will with those suspiciously high refunds), tell them not to ignore the letters. Getting ahead of the problem makes a huge difference in how the IRS treats the situation.

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Jean Claude

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This is 100% a tax scam called "refund fraud" and it's actually really common. The preparer is likely falsifying your coworkers' income or creating fake business expenses. Those ridiculously high refunds are a massive red flag. I worked in a tax office where someone was doing this. The preparer was fired when the company found out, but dozens of clients got audited. The worst part is the preparer had moved on and disappeared while the clients were left dealing with the IRS. They all had to repay the fraudulent refunds plus interest and penalties. The IRS is actually pretty good at catching these schemes. They have systems that flag returns with unusually high refunds compared to income levels. Your coworkers should immediately get a copy of their returns and review what was claimed. If they find false information, they should file amended returns ASAP before the IRS comes to them.

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How long does the IRS usually take to catch this kind of stuff? My coworkers already got their refunds from last year's returns (which is why they're all using him again this year). Does that mean they're in the clear?

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Jean Claude

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The IRS typically takes 1-2 years to identify and begin pursuing these kinds of cases. Getting a refund doesn't mean they're in the clear at all - it just means the initial automated systems didn't flag the return. The IRS has up to 3 years to audit a return under normal circumstances, but for significant underreporting (which this sounds like), they can go back 6 years. Many tax scam victims think they're fine because they got their refund, but then 18 months later they start getting notices. By that point, they've usually spent the money and now face repayment plus interest and penalties. The fact that they're going back to the same preparer for a second year actually makes their situation worse - it establishes a pattern that makes it harder to claim they were innocent victims.

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Charity Cohan

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Tell your friends to RUN from this tax preparer immediately! I see several specific red flags that indicate what kind of scam this likely is: 1. If your coworkers don't own businesses but are getting huge refunds, the preparer is probably creating fake Schedule C businesses with losses to offset their W-2 income 2. The "meet at Starbucks" thing is classic for fly-by-night preparers who don't want a traceable location 3. The rush to "get refunds before IRS changes rules" is nonsense designed to pressure people I've seen cases where preparers like this file the return electronically, showing the client one version but actually submitting a different version to the IRS with all kinds of fake deductions. By the time the IRS catches up (and they will), the preparer is long gone.

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Josef Tearle

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So what should someone do if they already filed with someone like this? Asking for a friend...

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Emily Sanjay

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@Josef Tearle If your friend "already" filed with a sketchy preparer, they need to act fast. First step is to get a copy of their actual tax return from the IRS not (just what the preparer showed them to) see what was really filed. They can request a tax transcript online or by mail. If they find false information, they should immediately file an amended return Form (1040X to) correct any errors before the IRS discovers them. This shows good faith and can reduce penalties. They might also want to report the fraudulent preparer to the IRS using Form 14157. The key is being proactive rather than waiting for an audit notice. The IRS tends to be more lenient with taxpayers who come forward voluntarily to correct problems versus those who get caught later.

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