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Yuki Kobayashi

Using a 1099-NEC vs W2 for dependent child impacts tax filing requirements

My son just turned 17 and I'm realizing how messed up the tax situation is with his summer job. He's been working at a local orchard since June and just received a 1099-NEC for about $5,300 he earned last year. I still claim him as a dependent on my taxes. I was looking through the tax rules (specifically IRS Publication 929) and discovered something that seems really unfair. If he had received a W2 instead, he wouldn't need to file taxes at all as long as his earned income was under $12,550. But since he got a 1099-NEC, he now has to file AND pay self-employment tax on that money! The farmer is basically shifting his tax burden onto my teenage son by classifying him as an independent contractor instead of an employee. My son just shows up when scheduled, uses their equipment, and follows their instructions - sounds like an employee to me. Has anyone dealt with this situation before? It feels wrong that my dependent child is now on the hook for self-employment taxes just because his employer decided to use a 1099-NEC instead of a W2.

You're absolutely right to be concerned. The distinction between W-2 employee and 1099 contractor status has significant tax implications, especially for dependent children. Based on what you've described, your son is likely misclassified. True independent contractors generally set their own hours, use their own equipment, and decide how to complete their work. If your son is taking direction from the orchard owner, using their equipment, and working on their schedule, he should probably be classified as an employee with a W-2. The difference is substantial - with a 1099-NEC, your son is responsible for both the employer and employee portions of Social Security and Medicare taxes (15.3% total) versus just the employee portion (7.65%) with a W-2. Plus, the filing requirements are different as you noted. You have a few options: 1) Talk to the orchard owner about proper classification, 2) File Form SS-8 with the IRS to request a determination of worker status, or 3) File Form 8919 to report the uncollected Social Security and Medicare tax if you believe he was misclassified.

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Thanks for confirming what I suspected. I actually printed out the IRS guidelines on contractor vs employee status and everything points to him being an employee. Do you think it's better to talk to the orchard owner first before filing any forms with the IRS? I don't want to burn bridges since my son actually likes working there. Also, if we do get this corrected, can we amend his return after filing to get back any overpaid taxes?

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I would definitely talk to the orchard owner first. Many small business owners misclassify workers out of confusion rather than intentional tax avoidance. Bring your printed guidelines and explain your concerns calmly. Sometimes a friendly conversation resolves these issues without involving the IRS. Yes, if the classification is corrected, you can file an amended return using Form 1040X to recover the overpaid self-employment taxes. You generally have three years from the original filing date to submit an amendment and claim a refund.

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Did your daughter's employer actually switch her to W-2 status after seeing the documentation? My son is dealing with the same issue and his boss is being stubborn about it.

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My nephew went through this exact situation. The landscaping company he worked for gave all their teenage workers 1099s. When we challenged them, they tried claiming that "seasonal work = contractor" which is 100% wrong! We filed Form SS-8 with the IRS after the owner refused to correct it. It took about 6 months but the IRS ruled in my nephew's favor. They determined he was an employee and the company had to pay their share of the FICA taxes. Be prepared for some pushback from the employer because changing your son's status means they'll have to pay their portion of Social Security and Medicare taxes. That's why some businesses try classifying workers as 1099 contractors when they're actually employees.

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Did filing the SS-8 create problems for your nephew with the employer? My son wants to work there again this summer, and I'm worried about retaliation if we go straight to the IRS.

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Yes, unfortunately it did create some awkwardness. The owner was pretty upset about having to pay back taxes and my nephew didn't get rehired the next season. If your son wants to continue working there, I'd definitely try the conversation route first with some educational materials in hand. The approach mentioned above using documentation to show the rules without being accusatory is smart. Sometimes small business owners genuinely don't understand the classification rules. But if they refuse to correct it after being educated, then the SS-8 is your best option, even if it might mean finding a new job.

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One thing nobody's mentioned yet - your son could also file Schedule C and take business deductions to offset some of the self-employment tax burden if he decides to just file as a contractor this year. Things like: portion of cell phone used for work, work clothes/boots, travel to job sites, tools purchased, etc. It won't completely solve the problem but might reduce the tax hit somewhat while you work on getting him properly classified for next year.

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This is bad advice. Taking business deductions when you're clearly misclassified can create bigger problems down the road. The IRS might see those deductions as confirmation that the contractor status was appropriate. Better to address the misclassification directly.

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This is such a common problem with seasonal agricultural work! I've seen this happen repeatedly with local farms and orchards who classify teenage workers as contractors when they're clearly employees. The key test is really about control - if your son shows up at scheduled times, follows the orchard's instructions on how to do the work, and uses their equipment, he's an employee regardless of his age or the seasonal nature of the work. The IRS doesn't have a "seasonal worker exception" that automatically makes someone a contractor. What's particularly frustrating is that legitimate teenage employees earning under $12,550 wouldn't owe any federal income tax and would only pay the employee portion of FICA taxes (7.65%). But with the 1099-NEC, your son is getting hit with the full self-employment tax of 15.3% plus potentially owing income tax if he doesn't have enough deductions. I'd definitely start with a respectful conversation with the orchard owner. Bring documentation of the IRS worker classification tests and frame it as helping them avoid potential compliance issues. Many small agricultural businesses genuinely don't understand these rules and appreciate being educated rather than reported. If they refuse to correct it, you have solid grounds for filing Form SS-8 to get an official determination. The downside is it can take months and might strain the working relationship, but your son shouldn't have to pay extra taxes due to misclassification.

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This is exactly the comprehensive overview I was hoping to see! You've perfectly summarized the core issue - it's all about control, and from what the original poster described, their son is clearly being controlled like an employee. The point about there being no "seasonal worker exception" is crucial. I think a lot of small agricultural businesses assume that seasonal = contractor, but that's just not how the law works. The IRS classification tests don't change based on whether the work is temporary or ongoing. I'm curious though - have you seen cases where the orchard owners were genuinely surprised to learn about proper classification, or do most of them know they're cutting corners to avoid paying employer taxes? I'm trying to gauge whether this is usually innocent confusion or intentional tax avoidance before I approach my son's employer.

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