Teacher in Texas: Why am I owing taxes every year despite withholding extra?
Title: Teacher in Texas: Why am I owing taxes every year despite withholding extra? 1 My husband and I are both educators in Texas public schools, and we're completely frustrated with our tax situation. Every single filing season we end up owing money to the IRS. Two years ago, we got hit with almost $1,300 in taxes due. We double-checked everything - our W-4 forms were filled out correctly according to both our HR departments. So we decided to increase our withholding by having an additional $25 taken from each of our paychecks every two weeks. But last year, we still ended up owing $550 at tax time! This year we're looking at a bill of around $370 even with the extra withholding. I just don't understand how we can be withholding extra money throughout the year and still end up owing. We both have pretty straightforward teaching salaries, no fancy investments or side gigs. Is there something about teacher income specifically that I'm missing? Are there deductions we should be taking that we're not aware of? Any help would be appreciated because I'm tired of getting surprised with a tax bill every April.
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TillyCombatwarrior
12 This is actually fairly common for dual-income households, especially with two people in the same profession. The withholding tables don't always account properly for two similar incomes being combined on a joint return, which can push you into a higher tax bracket than what's being withheld from each individual paycheck. For teachers specifically, there are a few things to check. First, make sure you're claiming the Educator Expense Deduction (up to $300 each, so $600 total for both of you). This covers classroom supplies you pay for out-of-pocket. Second, are either of you contributing to a 403(b) retirement plan? Increasing your contributions could lower your taxable income. Also, check if both of you selected "Married filing jointly" on your W-4s. Sometimes this can cause underwithholding when both spouses work. The newer W-4 form (post-2020) has a specific section for dual-income households that you should fill out.
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TillyCombatwarrior
•5 This makes so much sense! My wife and I are both accountants and we had this exact same problem. We both checked "married filing jointly" on our W-4s thinking it was the right thing to do. But doesn't that assume only one person is working? How do you fix this on the new W-4 forms? Do we both need to check the box for having multiple jobs?
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TillyCombatwarrior
•12 Yes, that's exactly the issue - when you both select "Married filing jointly" without completing the multiple jobs section, the withholding system assumes each job is the only income for the household. On the newer W-4 forms, you should both complete Step 2 which addresses multiple jobs. There are three options there: using the IRS's online estimator (most accurate), using the multiple jobs worksheet, or simply checking the box for having multiple jobs with similar pay (easiest but less precise). Since you both have similar teaching salaries, checking the box might be sufficient, but the online estimator would give you the most accurate withholding.
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TillyCombatwarrior
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TillyCombatwarrior
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•3 I've heard about this but was skeptical. How much did it cost? I'm a teacher too and budget is always tight, especially if I already owe on taxes!
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TillyCombatwarrior
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TillyCombatwarrior
3 Just wanted to update that I tried taxr.ai after seeing the recommendation here, and it was seriously helpful for my situation. I uploaded my last year's return and recent paystubs, and it immediately identified why I'd been owing - turns out my husband and I were both claiming too many allowances on our old W-4s, and when we switched to the new forms, we didn't complete the multiple jobs worksheet correctly. The report gave us a customized withholding strategy that actually accounted for both our teaching salaries. It also found that I could deduct some professional organization dues I didn't know were tax-deductible! Already updated our W-4s with our school district's HR department, and the paycheck calculator shows we should be in much better shape for next year's taxes. Such a relief not to dread tax season for once!
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TillyCombatwarrior
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TillyCombatwarrior
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TillyCombatwarrior
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TillyCombatwarrior
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TillyCombatwarrior
15 I need to apologize and correct myself. After dismissing Claimyr as a potential scam, I decided to try it myself out of desperation when I couldn't resolve a withholding issue on the IRS website. I was honestly shocked when I got a call back in about 35 minutes and was speaking to an actual IRS representative. The agent explained that as two teachers filing jointly, we needed to use the multiple jobs worksheet or the IRS withholding estimator online, not just check the box on the W-4. We'd been underwithholding by about $75 per paycheck between both our salaries. The agent walked me through exactly what to put on each line of the new form. This would have taken me weeks to figure out on my own with the impossible phone waits. Really grateful I gave it a shot despite my initial skepticism.
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TillyCombatwarrior
22 Have either of you looked into whether your school districts have tax-sheltered annuity (TSA) options? My wife and I are both educators in Florida, and we solved our "owing every year" problem by increasing our 403(b) contributions. It lowered our taxable income enough to fix the withholding issue, plus we're saving more for retirement. Win-win!
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TillyCombatwarrior
•4 Do TSA contributions count toward the limits of traditional IRA contributions? I'm already maxing out my Roth IRA but still trying to save more for retirement while fixing this tax issue.
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TillyCombatwarrior
•22 No, they're completely separate limits. Your 403(b)/TSA contribution limit for 2025 is $23,500 (plus catch-up contributions if you're over 50), while your IRA limit is $7,000. You can max out both if you can afford it. The nice thing for teachers is that many districts offer both 403(b) and 457(b) plans, and you can contribute the maximum to EACH plan, potentially sheltering over $47,000 from taxes if you maxed both. Most teachers don't come close to that, but even increasing your contributions by a few percent can make a big difference in your tax situation.
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TillyCombatwarrior
8 Has anyone used the IRS Withholding Estimator tool? I heard it's supposed to be more accurate than just guessing at how much extra to withhold, especially for two-income households.
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TillyCombatwarrior
•17 I use it every January and then again in June to double-check. It's surprisingly accurate! You need your most recent paystubs and last year's tax return handy. Takes about 15 minutes but gives you the exact dollar amount to put on line 4(c) of your W-4 for additional withholding. Saved us from owing for the first time in 5 years of teaching.
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Mateo Rodriguez
•The IRS Withholding Estimator is definitely the way to go! I wish I'd known about it years ago. As a new teacher, I was just guessing at how much extra to withhold and still ended up owing. The estimator asks for specific details about both spouses' income, deductions, and filing status. It even accounts for things like the educator expense deduction automatically if you input that you're a teacher. The key is to run it at the beginning of the year and then again mid-year if anything changes with your income or deductions.
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CosmicCadet
As a fellow educator who went through this exact same frustration, I completely understand your situation! The dual-income teacher household tax issue is more common than you'd think. Here are a few specific things that helped me and my spouse (also both teachers): 1. **Use the IRS Withholding Estimator** - It's free on the IRS website and specifically designed for situations like yours. Run it twice a year (January and mid-year) to adjust as needed. 2. **Max out your educator expense deduction** - You can each claim up to $300 for classroom supplies, so that's $600 total that reduces your taxable income. 3. **Check your 403(b) contributions** - Even increasing by 1-2% can significantly reduce your taxable income while boosting retirement savings. 4. **Complete Step 2 on your W-4s properly** - The multiple jobs section is crucial for dual-income households. Many couples skip this and end up underwithholding. The good news is this is totally fixable! Once you get your withholding adjusted correctly, you should stop owing every year. Don't feel bad about not knowing this stuff - tax withholding for dual-income households is genuinely complicated, and most people learn this the hard way like we did.
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