Tax reporting for homegrown dividends - tracking principle reduction
I've been reading Ken Fisher's stuff about homegrown dividends, and I'm trying to figure out if there's a specific tax schedule or form where I need to track the reduction in principle when I'm filing my taxes. For those who aren't familiar, from what I understand, homegrown dividends basically means that instead of withdrawing from investment growth or realizing capital gains (which would be taxable), you're withdrawing from your original principle investment, which should be tax-free. I've started using this strategy with part of my portfolio, but I'm confused about how to properly document this on my tax return. Do I need to keep a separate spreadsheet? Is there an IRS form specifically for tracking principle withdrawals? I don't want to accidentally trigger any tax issues or get flagged for audit because I'm not reporting something correctly. Any advice from people who've been doing this would be really helpful!
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Val Rossi
This is a great question about a tax-efficient withdrawal strategy that doesn't get enough attention. You're right that withdrawing your original principal is tax-free - it's essentially just taking back money you already paid taxes on. The good news is that there's no special schedule or form needed for tracking these withdrawals. The IRS doesn't require you to report when you withdraw your original investment principal. However, for your own records, you absolutely should track your cost basis (your original investment amount) and your withdrawals from principal. Keep in mind that if you're selling investments to generate these "homegrown dividends," you'll need to be strategic about which lots you're selling to ensure you're only selling shares that won't result in capital gains. Most brokerages allow specific lot identification when selling. The most important thing is to maintain detailed records of your original investments and subsequent withdrawals. This documentation becomes crucial if you're ever audited, as you'll need to prove that the money withdrawn was indeed from principal and not gains.
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Eve Freeman
•This is interesting! So just to clarify - if I have $100k invested and it grows to $150k, I can withdraw up to $100k tax free? And the brokerage statements would be enough documentation? Or do I need something more formal?
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Val Rossi
•Yes, that's exactly right. If you invested $100k and it's grown to $150k, you can withdraw up to $100k tax-free because that's just getting your original money back. Your brokerage statements showing your original purchases should be sufficient documentation, but I recommend maintaining your own spreadsheet as well. Track the date and amount of each original investment, along with dates and amounts of your principal withdrawals. This gives you a clear running total of how much principal you have left that can be withdrawn tax-free.
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Clarissa Flair
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Caden Turner
•How does it handle multiple accounts? I have investments spread across Vanguard, Fidelity and an old 401k that's been rolled over a couple times.
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McKenzie Shade
•Sounds too good to be true honestly. Doesn't your brokerage already track your cost basis? Why pay for something extra?
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Clarissa Flair
•It handles multiple accounts very well actually. You just upload statements from each account and it consolidates everything. I had a similar situation with accounts at different brokerages plus some inherited investments, and it managed to organize it all correctly. Regarding whether brokerages already track this - they do track cost basis for more recent investments, but many don't have accurate records for older holdings purchased before 2011 when the reporting requirements changed. Also, they don't always correctly identify which withdrawals are principal vs. gains if you've made multiple contributions over time. That's where I found the specialized tax analysis really helpful.
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Caden Turner
Just wanted to follow up and say I tried taxr.ai after seeing it mentioned here. It actually worked really well for my situation. I uploaded my last 5 years of statements and it correctly identified which portions of my withdrawals were return of principal vs. taxable gains. Saved me from accidentally over-reporting my investment income. It even caught some wash sales I wasn't aware of that happened between my different accounts. Now I have a clear record of exactly how much principal I've withdrawn and how much is still available for tax-free withdrawals.
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Harmony Love
If you're dealing with complex tax situations like this, you'll probably need to talk directly with the IRS at some point. After spending 4 days trying to get through to them about a similar cost basis issue, I finally used https://claimyr.com and their service got me a callback in about 20 minutes instead of waiting on hold for hours. You can see how it works here: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c The IRS agent I spoke with confirmed that there's no specific schedule for reporting principle withdrawals, but emphasized keeping detailed records. She actually recommended using specific lot identification when selling investments to ensure you're only selling shares with the basis you intend. Made a huge difference in my understanding of how to properly handle my homegrown dividend strategy.
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Rudy Cenizo
•How much did the service cost? Seems like just another way to charge people for something that should be free.
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Natalie Khan
•Does this actually work? I've literally never been able to get through to a real person at the IRS despite trying multiple times. Always end up in an automated loop or getting disconnected.
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Harmony Love
•I don't remember the exact amount, but it was worth it to me considering I had already wasted hours trying to get through and kept getting disconnected. The time saved was the real value. The service absolutely works. I was skeptical too after multiple failed attempts to reach someone. The way it works is they use some kind of system that navigates the IRS phone tree and holds your place in line, then when they reach a representative, they connect you. I got a real person who actually knew what they were talking about regarding cost basis reporting.
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Natalie Khan
Just wanted to update - I actually tried Claimyr after posting my skeptical comment. Not gonna lie, I was shocked when I got a call back from the IRS in under 30 minutes. Talked to someone who clarified my whole situation with homegrown dividends. They confirmed that while there's no specific form for tracking principal withdrawals, I should keep detailed records showing the withdrawal history. They also explained how this relates to form 8949 when I do eventually sell investments with gains. Worth every penny for the time saved and peace of mind.
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Daryl Bright
One approach I've found helpful is using the specific identification method when selling investments. This lets me choose exactly which shares to sell - typically the ones with the highest basis to minimize gains. Most brokerages allow this now, and it's much more tax-efficient than FIFO or average cost methods. For tracking, I just maintain a simple spreadsheet with columns for: - Original investment date and amount - Growth (unrealized gains) - Principal withdrawals (date and amount) - Remaining principal available for tax-free withdrawal Works well for my homegrown dividend strategy and takes minimal time to maintain.
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Sienna Gomez
•Do you have to notify your brokerage which specific shares you want to sell before the sale, or can you do it afterward when filing taxes?
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Daryl Bright
•You need to specify which shares you want to sell at the time of the sale - you can't decide later when filing taxes. Most online brokerages have an option during the sell process where you can choose "Specific Identification" instead of FIFO (First In, First Out) or average cost. When you choose specific identification, you'll be able to select the exact lots (shares purchased on specific dates at specific prices) that you want to sell. This gives you maximum control over the tax implications of your sales and is essential for an effective homegrown dividend strategy.
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Kirsuktow DarkBlade
Has anyone here dealt with homegrown dividends in retirement accounts vs taxable accounts? I'm trying to figure out how this works with my Roth IRA where the contributions are already post-tax.
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Abigail bergen
•For Roth IRAs, the withdrawal rules are a bit different. You can always withdraw your contributions (principal) tax and penalty free at any time. It's actually even simpler than with taxable accounts because you don't need to worry about specific identification of lots. The IRS considers withdrawals from Roth IRAs to come from contributions first, then conversions, then earnings. So you can just keep track of your total contributions over the years, and as long as your withdrawals don't exceed that amount, they're completely tax-free.
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