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Tax Question: How to File Returns for 2 Single Member LLCs Owned by a Multi Member LLC

I'm helping my brother-in-law organize his business filings and got confused about the proper tax structure. He and his partner started a Multi Member LLC last year that serves as a holding company. This holding LLC owns two separate Single Member LLCs that operate different parts of their landscaping business (one handles residential jobs, the other commercial projects). When preparing tax returns for this business structure, should I be filing three separate 1065s (one for each entity), or just one 1065 for the Multi Member LLC that's the holding company? From what I've read on the IRS website, it seems like the two single member LLCs would be considered Disregarded Entities, so all their activity should be reported on the 1065 for the holding LLC. Is that understanding correct? I want to make sure I'm not missing something here before I start gathering all the financial documentation.

You're on the right track! For tax purposes, the Single Member LLCs owned by the Multi Member LLC are indeed considered disregarded entities. This means you'll only need to file one Form 1065 for the Multi Member LLC (the holding company). The activities, income, expenses, assets, and liabilities of the two Single Member LLCs should all be reported on the holding company's 1065. The IRS looks through the Single Member LLCs and treats all those transactions as if they were conducted directly by the Multi Member LLC. Be sure to maintain separate books and records for each entity for business purposes, but for tax filing, you'll consolidate everything onto one return. This actually simplifies your tax reporting requirements quite a bit!

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Thanks for the explanation! Quick follow-up: would we need to file any special forms or attachments to the 1065 to show that these activities are technically happening in separate legal entities? Or does the IRS not care about that distinction for tax purposes?

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The IRS doesn't require specific forms or attachments to indicate the separate legal entities in this case. Since the Single Member LLCs are disregarded for federal tax purposes, you don't need to explicitly identify them on the 1065. However, it's good practice to maintain clear internal records showing which income and expenses belong to which entity. This makes state filings easier (some states may have different requirements) and helps with accurate business reporting for management purposes.

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When I set up this structure for my husband's business, we also created separate bank accounts for each SMLLC to keep the finances clean. Just because they're disregarded for federal tax purposes doesn't mean you should commingle the funds! Makes the accounting SO much easier when you prepare the consolidated 1065.

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Do you also file separate Schedule Cs for each SMLLC or just combine everything? Our accountant is giving us mixed messages and now I'm confused about how to properly document everything.

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You don't file Schedule Cs at all in this situation. Schedule C is used for sole proprietorships, not partnerships. Since the holding company is a multi-member LLC, you'll file Form 1065 (Partnership Return), which will include all income and expenses from the disregarded SMLLCs. On the Form 1065, you consolidate all activities from the SMLLCs - there's no separate schedule or form to distinguish between them. That's why good bookkeeping with separate accounts is so important even though tax filing is consolidated. It keeps your internal reporting clear while simplifying your tax filing.

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Quick heads up for anyone in a similar situation - don't forget about state filings! Even though federal treats SMLLCs as disregarded, some states require separate filings or have entity taxes. California hit me with $800 minimum tax PER LLC even though federally they were disregarded. Would have been nice if my accountant mentioned that before we created the structure!

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Which states have you found to be particularly problematic with this structure? We're expanding to a few new states next year and I'm trying to plan ahead.

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This is such a helpful thread! I'm dealing with a similar situation where my family's construction business has a multi-member LLC that owns two single-member LLCs (one for residential, one for commercial work). Based on everyone's input here, it sounds like we've been overcomplicating things by preparing separate books for potential separate filings. The confirmation that everything consolidates onto one 1065 is exactly what I needed to hear. One question though - when you're consolidating the income and expenses from both SMLLCs onto the 1065, do you need to use specific line items or schedules to show the different business activities? Or does it all just get lumped together as partnership income/expenses regardless of which SMLLC generated it?

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Great question! For the 1065 filing, you typically don't need to separate the income and expenses by individual SMLLC - it all gets consolidated as partnership income and expenses. The IRS doesn't require you to distinguish between which disregarded entity generated what income on the tax return itself. However, if your residential and commercial activities are significantly different types of business operations, you might want to consider whether they should be reported under different business activity codes or if any special industry-specific forms apply. But for most construction businesses doing both residential and commercial work, it would all flow through the standard partnership income/expense lines. The key is maintaining good internal records (which it sounds like you're already doing) so you can track profitability by division for business management purposes, even though tax reporting is simplified into one return.

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This thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm in a similar boat with my landscaping business - we have a multi-member LLC that owns two SMLLCs (one for lawn care, one for hardscaping). I've been stressing about this for weeks because my previous accountant moved and the new one I consulted gave me conflicting advice about whether I needed three separate 1065s. Reading through all these responses, especially the confirmation from actual IRS agents that some folks were able to reach, gives me confidence that we only need the one consolidated 1065. The tip about maintaining separate bank accounts even though they're disregarded entities is gold - we already do this but I was wondering if it was necessary. Sounds like it makes the consolidated filing much cleaner when everything is properly separated on the books even if it all flows to one tax return. Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences. This community is such a valuable resource for navigating these complex business structures!

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I'm so glad this thread helped clarify things for you! I was in almost the exact same situation a few months ago with my property management business - multi-member LLC with three SMLLCs for different property types. The conflicting advice from different accountants was driving me crazy too. One thing I learned through this process is that many accountants default to the "safer" approach of separate filings because they're not as familiar with disregarded entity rules, especially when it comes to more complex structures. But the IRS guidance is actually pretty clear once you dig into it. Your setup with separate banking is perfect - it'll make that consolidated 1065 so much easier to prepare and will keep you organized if you ever need to provide documentation to the IRS or for any business purposes. Best of luck with your filing!

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