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Fatima Al-Qasimi

Starting Payroll with Gusto for First Time - What Type of Employee Am I as LLC/S-Corp Owner?

Hey there tax friends! So I've been operating as a single-member LLC for about 3 years now, but I recently filed to convert to an S-Corporation (just got approved last month). Now I'm trying to setup payroll through Gusto for the first time ever and I'm totally confused. When I'm going through the Gusto setup, it's asking what type of employee I am. I have no idea what to select! I'm the only person working in the business - just me, myself, and I. From what I understand, as an S-Corp owner, I need to pay myself a reasonable salary through payroll, but I don't know how to classify myself. The options are like regular employee, officer, owner, etc. and I'm not sure which one applies to my situation. Does anyone have experience with this who can point me in the right direction? I really don't want to mess this up and have tax issues later. Thanks in advance for any help!!

As an S-Corp owner who's been through this exact process, I can help clear this up for you. When setting up payroll in Gusto for yourself as a single-member LLC that elected S-Corporation status, you should select "Owner" AND "Officer" for your classification. Since you're the owner of an S-Corporation, you're technically considered both an owner and a corporate officer (likely President or CEO of your corporation). This dual classification is important for tax purposes. As an S-Corp owner, you'll need to pay yourself a "reasonable salary" through payroll, which is subject to regular income and FICA taxes. Any additional money you take out beyond your salary would be distributions, which aren't subject to FICA taxes. Gusto's system is pretty good about walking you through this setup, and they understand the unique situation of S-Corp owners who are also employees of their business.

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Thank you so much! That makes sense about being both Owner and Officer. Just to double check - will Gusto automatically handle the proper tax withholdings once I set it up this way? And do you have any advice about determining what counts as a "reasonable salary"? I've heard different opinions ranging from 30% to 60% of business profits.

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Yes, Gusto will automatically handle all the proper tax withholdings once you've set yourself up correctly. They'll calculate and withhold federal income tax, Social Security, Medicare, and any applicable state taxes from your salary payments. For determining a "reasonable salary," there's no fixed percentage rule. The IRS looks at factors like your qualifications, duties performed, time spent working, what comparable businesses pay for similar services, and your company's payment history. A common approach is researching what someone would earn doing your job in your industry and location. I recommend documenting your salary decision with market research. Too low a salary raises red flags with the IRS since they want to ensure you're not avoiding payroll taxes by taking mostly distributions.

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One thing nobody's mentioned yet - make sure whatever salary you set for yourself is actually feasible for your business cash flow. I made the mistake of setting too high a "reasonable salary" when I first switched to an S-Corp, and then had months where I didn't have enough cash to run payroll. Remember that with Gusto, you'll need to run payroll regularly (monthly, biweekly, etc.) regardless of whether your business has consistent income. That caught me off guard at first. If your business income fluctuates seasonally, you might want to set a conservative base salary that you can always cover, then give yourself a bonus during better months.

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This is so important! I'm wondering - can you change your salary amount throughout the year if needed? Or once you set it in Gusto are you locked in to that amount for the full year?

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You can absolutely change your salary amount throughout the year in Gusto. It's not complicated - just go to the employee settings and update the salary figure. I wouldn't recommend changing it every single pay period as that might raise red flags, but quarterly adjustments based on business performance are totally reasonable. I actually settled on a strategy where I set a modest base salary that represents the minimum I'd expect to earn even in slow months, then I give myself quarterly bonuses based on how the business is performing. This approach gives me flexibility while still meeting the reasonable compensation requirements. Gusto handles the bonus payroll calculations automatically, which is super convenient.

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Just to add another perspective - when I set up my S-Corp payroll in Gusto last year, I selected "Owner" AND "Officer" like others suggested, but I also needed to set up my state unemployment insurance account first. Gusto needed that SUI account number to complete the setup properly. Each state has different requirements, so double check what your state needs!

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Which tax software did you use to file your S-Corp return? I'm trying to decide between TurboTax Business and H&R Block Premium. Did Gusto integrate well with whatever you used?

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I used TaxAct for Business to file my S-Corp return last year. It was reasonably priced and worked well enough, though there was a bit of a learning curve. The nice thing is that Gusto integrates with pretty much all the major tax software options. Gusto automatically generates your W-2 and makes it super easy to input all the payroll data when you're filing your taxes. They even have a special year-end report formatted specifically for S-Corps that summarizes all the payroll information you'll need for your 1120S filing. I just downloaded that report and used it to fill in the appropriate sections in TaxAct. Made the whole process much simpler than I expected!

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Hey Fatima! I went through this exact same situation about 8 months ago when I converted my single-member LLC to S-Corp status. The classification part in Gusto definitely threw me for a loop initially too! You'll want to select both "Owner" and "Officer" as your employee type in Gusto. Since you're the sole owner of your S-Corporation, you're technically considered a corporate officer (usually President/CEO) as well as the owner. This dual classification is what the IRS expects for S-Corp owner-employees. One tip that really helped me: before you finalize everything in Gusto, make sure you have your EIN updated with the IRS to reflect your S-Corp election. Sometimes there's a lag between when you file the election and when it shows up in their system, which can cause hiccups with payroll setup. Also, don't stress too much about getting the "reasonable salary" perfect right away. You can always adjust it as you learn more about your business patterns. I started conservative and then increased it after a few quarters once I had a better handle on cash flow. Good luck with the setup!

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Thanks for mentioning the EIN update! I'm actually dealing with this right now and didn't realize there could be a lag. How long did it take for your S-Corp election to show up in the IRS system? I filed my Form 2553 about 6 weeks ago and got the approval letter, but I'm wondering if I should wait a bit longer before setting up payroll to avoid any complications. Also, when you say "started conservative" with the salary, what percentage of your business income did you begin with? I keep seeing different advice online and want to make sure I'm in a reasonable range from the start.

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