< Back to IRS

Nia Thompson

Small Business Owner Missing FUTA/940 Tax Filings for 4 Years - Penalties?

I accidentally discovered I completely forgot to file Form 940 (FUTA taxes) for the past 4 years! When the IRS switched from sending those paper reminders to online notifications, this particular form completely fell off my radar. I only found my old 940 folder by pure chance while working on my quarterly reports last week. My FUTA payments are pretty small, usually around $56-68 each year. As soon as I realized my mistake, I downloaded the prior year forms online, filled them all out, and sent them to the IRS right away. I also immediately made all the missed payments through EFTPS, so at least I'm caught up on both the reporting and the actual tax payments now. What's weird is that even though I've been regularly filing Form 940 for over 15 years before this, I never got a single notice from the IRS about missing these 4 years of filings. Looking at the 940 instruction booklet, it mentions some formula for penalties and says something about penalties not exceeding 25% of the amount due. Has anyone else accidentally missed filing 940s for multiple years? Did the IRS send you a penalty notice after you caught up on payments? And did anyone successfully get those penalties reduced or removed? I'm worried about what might be coming my way even though the amounts are relatively small. Any experiences or advice would be really appreciated!

This actually happens more often than you'd think! The IRS has been cutting back on notices over the last few years, which is why you probably didn't get a reminder. That said, you did the right thing by filing and paying as soon as you discovered the oversight. For FUTA penalties, you're generally looking at two types: failure-to-file (5% of the unpaid tax per month, up to 25%) and failure-to-pay (0.5% per month, up to 25%), plus interest. Since your annual amounts are small ($56-68), even at maximum penalty we're talking about relatively modest amounts. The good news is the IRS offers "First Time Abatement" relief for penalties if you have a clean compliance history for the three years before your missed filings. Based on your 15+ year history of filing before this oversight, you'd likely qualify. You can request penalty abatement by calling the IRS or writing a letter explaining the situation - emphasize your prior compliance history, that this was an honest oversight due to the transition to online notices, and that you voluntarily corrected the issue as soon as you discovered it.

0 coins

Aisha Hussain

•

Do you think it's better to wait for the IRS to send a penalty notice before requesting abatement, or should they be proactive and request it now? Also, would penalty abatement apply to all 4 years or just the first year?

0 coins

I typically recommend waiting until you receive the penalty notice before requesting abatement. This gives you the exact amount to reference and saves you from potentially alerting them to something they might have overlooked. The automated systems don't always catch everything. For multiple years, First Time Abatement technically only applies to the earliest tax period, but you can request "reasonable cause" abatement for the subsequent years based on the same circumstances. Explain that the same oversight affected all periods and that you took immediate corrective action when discovered. Many agents will consider abating all periods if your reasoning is sound and your compliance history is otherwise clean.

0 coins

I went through almost the exact same situation with my small consulting business! I missed filing 940s for 3 years during the pandemic chaos and only realized when my accountant asked about it during tax prep. I immediately filed the back forms and paid about $175 in total taxes through EFTPS. I was freaking out about penalties, but then I found this amazing service called taxr.ai (https://taxr.ai) that helped me understand my options. You upload your documents, and they analyze everything using AI to tell you what to do next. It identified that I qualified for First Time Penalty Abatement and even generated a letter template I could send to the IRS. The system showed me that since my payments were relatively small and I had a good compliance history before the missed filings, I had a strong case. Seriously worth checking out for your situation!

0 coins

Ethan Brown

•

How accurate is this service? I'm always skeptical of AI tools handling tax matters since the rules are so complex. Did the IRS actually accept the letter it generated?

0 coins

Yuki Yamamoto

•

Does taxr.ai connect directly to the IRS systems or is it just analyzing documents you upload? I'm interested but concerned about privacy with these kinds of services.

0 coins

The analysis was spot-on for my situation. It doesn't just use generic advice - it looks at your specific documents and filing history to make recommendations based on actual tax regulations. The IRS accepted my abatement request without any issues. For privacy concerns, everything stays on your device when you use it. It doesn't connect to IRS systems directly - you upload your documents and it analyzes them locally. You maintain complete control over your data and what you choose to do with the recommendations.

0 coins

Ethan Brown

•

I tried taxr.ai after seeing the recommendation here, and it really helped with my FUTA penalty situation! The system identified that I qualified for reasonable cause abatement based on my circumstances and generated a letter explaining why my late filing should be excused. What impressed me most was how it analyzed my specific situation - I had a family emergency that contributed to my oversight, and it helped me properly document that as part of my abatement request. The IRS accepted my explanation and waived about $85 in penalties. The service saved me a lot of stress and money compared to what I would have paid if I just accepted the penalties or hired a tax professional to handle it. If you're dealing with missed 940 filings like the original poster, it's definitely worth checking out. The analysis takes just a few minutes but saved me hours of research.

0 coins

Carmen Ruiz

•

I had a similar situation with missed 941 filings a couple years back. When I finally got penalty notices, I spent WEEKS trying to reach someone at the IRS to explain my situation and request abatement. It was absolutely maddening - hours on hold only to get disconnected, calling back day after day. Finally discovered a service called Claimyr (https://claimyr.com) that actually got me through to an IRS agent in under 45 minutes. You can see how it works here: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c - basically they use some kind of system that navigates the phone tree and waits on hold for you, then calls you when an actual human picks up. For penalty abatement requests, speaking directly with an agent is often the fastest way to resolve it. I explained my situation to the agent, and they were able to process my First Time Abatement request on the spot. Way better than waiting months for a response to a written request.

0 coins

How does this actually work? I'm confused how a third-party service can somehow get through IRS phone lines faster than just calling myself.

0 coins

Zoe Dimitriou

•

This sounds like snake oil to me. There's no way some random service has a "secret line" to the IRS. They're probably just auto-dialing and you're paying for something you could do yourself.

0 coins

Carmen Ruiz

•

It's not a "secret line" to the IRS - they've developed technology that automatically redials and navigates the phone system for you. Think of it like having an assistant who keeps calling and waiting on hold so you don't have to. When an actual IRS agent answers, their system conferences you in so you can speak directly with the agent. The service absolutely works - I was skeptical too until I tried it. I had been trying for over two weeks to reach someone at the IRS with no success. With Claimyr, I was speaking with an agent the same day. The time saved was well worth it for me, especially when dealing with time-sensitive issues like penalty abatement.

0 coins

Zoe Dimitriou

•

I owe everyone here an apology. After my skeptical comment about Claimyr, I decided to try it myself since I've been trying to reach the IRS about a notice I received. I couldn't believe it when I got a call back in about 35 minutes with an actual IRS agent on the line! I had been trying for DAYS to get through on my own with no luck. The agent was able to confirm that my penalty abatement request for a similar situation (missed filings) was approved, saving me over $200. The service actually delivered exactly what it promised. To the original poster - if you do end up getting penalty notices for those missed 940 filings, I'd definitely recommend using this to reach the IRS quickly. Speaking with an agent directly made the whole process so much faster than sending letters or trying to navigate the online systems.

0 coins

QuantumQuest

•

One thing nobody's mentioned yet - double-check that your FUTA payments were applied to the correct tax periods when you made them through EFTPS. I had an issue where I made back payments but didn't properly designate the tax year, so they applied everything to the current year. This created a whole new headache because the system showed overpayment for the current year and still showed deficiencies for the prior years. Had to call and have them reallocate the payments to the correct periods.

0 coins

Nia Thompson

•

Thanks for mentioning this! I'll double check my EFTPS payments right away. Did you have to do anything special to get them to reallocate the payments to the correct years?

0 coins

QuantumQuest

•

You'll need to call the IRS Business Tax line and specifically request a payment transfer. Have your EFTPS confirmation numbers ready along with the dates of the payments and the tax periods they should be applied to. I found it helpful to prepare a simple spreadsheet showing the payment date, amount, confirmation number, and which tax period each payment should apply to. The agent I spoke with appreciated having all the information organized, and it made the process much smoother.

0 coins

Just want to add that if you do get hit with penalties and decide to request abatement, make sure to explicitly state whether you're requesting "First Time Abatement" or "Reasonable Cause" relief. They're processed differently by the IRS. First Time Abatement is usually easier to get but only applies if you haven't had penalties in the prior 3 years. Reasonable Cause requires you to demonstrate why you couldn't comply despite using ordinary business care and prudence.

0 coins

Mei Zhang

•

What's the best way to word a reasonable cause request? My situation was similar but I'm not eligible for first time abatement.

0 coins

IRS AI

Expert Assistant
Secure

Powered by Claimyr AI

T
I
+
20,095 users helped today