Should I pay for an LLC or get a free EIN from the IRS for my small business?
Just started making handmade crafts and want to expand my business to platforms like Etsy, Amazon, and even set up a TikTok shop. The thing is, all these platforms are asking for an EIN (Employer Identification Number). I know I can get an EIN easily if I form an LLC, but that's gonna cost me $425 in my state. On the other hand, I'm pretty sure I can just apply for an EIN directly through the IRS.gov website for free without forming an LLC. Not sure which route makes the most sense financially and legally? Anyone been through this before? Just trying to do things the right way without wasting money if I don't have to!
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Micah Franklin
The answer depends on what you're trying to accomplish with your business. You don't necessarily need an LLC to get an EIN - they're two completely different things. An EIN is just a tax ID number that the IRS provides for free. You can apply directly on IRS.gov and usually get it instantly. You can get an EIN as a sole proprietor without forming any business entity. An LLC provides liability protection for your personal assets if someone sues your business. That $425 fee is for the legal structure, not for the EIN itself. If you're selling products that could potentially harm someone or if you're worried about being sued, the LLC might be worth considering for the liability protection. For most small craft businesses just starting out, many people begin as sole proprietors (no LLC) with an EIN. You can always form an LLC later if your business grows or your risk increases.
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Ella Harper
•What about taxes though? I heard LLCs have some tax benefits compared to being a sole proprietor. Is it worth the $425 just for tax purposes?
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Micah Franklin
•For tax purposes alone, a single-member LLC is typically treated the same as a sole proprietorship by default - it's called a "disregarded entity" by the IRS. You'd still report business income on Schedule C of your personal tax return. LLCs can elect different tax treatments (like being taxed as an S-Corp) which might save on self-employment taxes once you're making substantial profit, but most small businesses don't see tax benefits from an LLC until they're earning at least $30-40K in profit. At that point, you might want to consult with a tax professional about whether an S-Corp election would benefit you.
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PrinceJoe
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Brooklyn Knight
•How long did it take to get the analysis back? And did you need to provide a lot of financial documents or just explain your situation?
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Owen Devar
•Wait, this actually sounds useful. Does it give specific recommendations for your state? Because LLC fees and requirements vary so much by location.
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PrinceJoe
•The analysis came back in about 24 hours, which was faster than I expected. You don't need to upload actual financial documents - I just explained my expected revenue, what products I was selling, and my concerns about liability. Yes, it absolutely gives state-specific information! That was one of the most helpful parts. It broke down my state's LLC fees, ongoing requirements, and compared them to neighboring states. It even highlighted some state-specific tax quirks I hadn't considered.
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Owen Devar
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Daniel Rivera
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Sophie Footman
•How does this actually work? Does it just call the IRS for you? I'm confused how that would get you through faster than calling yourself.
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Connor Rupert
•This sounds too good to be true. The IRS wait times are insane. I tried calling for 2 weeks straight and never got through. You're saying this actually works?
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Daniel Rivera
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Connor Rupert
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Molly Hansen
Former bookkeeper here - one thing nobody's mentioned is that there are legit reasons to get an LLC beyond just the EIN question. If you're selling physical products, especially anything that could potentially cause harm (candles, bath products, food items, etc.), the liability protection is something to seriously consider. With a sole proprietorship, there's no legal separation between you and your business. Someone sues your business = they sue you personally. With properly maintained LLC, your personal assets are better protected. But if you're just starting out with very low risk products and minimal revenue, you can always start with just the EIN as a sole proprietor and create the LLC later when your business grows.
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Brady Clean
•What do you mean by "properly maintained LLC"? Are there specific things you need to do to keep the liability protection?
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Molly Hansen
•Great question. To maintain the liability protection of an LLC (called the "corporate veil"), you need to: 1) Keep business and personal finances completely separate (dedicated business bank account, never mix personal/business funds) 2) Follow all your state's LLC requirements (annual reports, fees, etc.) 3) Document major business decisions 4) Sign contracts/documents in your business capacity, not personal 5) Have adequate insurance for your business type If you don't do these things, a court could "pierce the corporate veil" and hold you personally liable anyway, making the LLC pointless. It's not complicated, but you do need to be consistent about keeping business operations separate from personal.
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Skylar Neal
Has anyone just used their SSN for Etsy? Do they actually require an EIN or can you start with just your social? Im in a similar situation as OP and don't wanna spend the money on an LLC yet if I don't have to.
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Vincent Bimbach
•You can absolutely use just your SSN for Etsy! I've been selling on Etsy for 3 years as a sole proprietor using just my social. They only need your SSN for tax reporting purposes.
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Natasha Ivanova
Adding to what others have said - I went through this exact decision last year for my jewelry business. Started with just the free EIN from IRS.gov as a sole proprietor and it worked perfectly for getting set up on Etsy, Amazon, and even my Square account. The IRS online application literally takes 10 minutes and you get your EIN instantly. No need to pay $425 for an LLC unless you specifically want the liability protection or plan to have employees soon. One tip: when you apply for the EIN, make sure you select "sole proprietorship" as your business type if you're not forming an LLC. The application will ask for your business name - you can just use your legal name or "Your Name DBA [Business Name]" if you want to use a different business name. You can always upgrade to an LLC later if your business grows and the liability protection becomes worth the cost. I'm actually considering it now that my revenue has grown substantially, but starting with just the EIN saved me money in those crucial first months when every dollar counted.
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Chloe Taylor
•This is exactly the advice I needed! I'm in a similar situation with my pottery business and was overthinking the whole LLC thing. Quick question - when you applied for the EIN online, did you run into any issues with the "business name" field? I want to use a different name than my legal name but wasn't sure how to format it properly on the application.
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Natalie Adams
Just went through this exact process for my woodworking business! You definitely don't need an LLC to get an EIN - I got mine directly from the IRS website in about 15 minutes completely free. The key thing to understand is that platforms like Etsy and Amazon are asking for an EIN for tax reporting purposes, not because you need to be incorporated. As a sole proprietor, you can get an EIN and use it instead of giving out your SSN to every platform and vendor. I started with just the free EIN and have been operating successfully for 8 months now. The liability protection of an LLC is nice to have, but for most craft businesses just starting out, the $425+ cost isn't justified until you're making consistent profit. My recommendation: Get the free EIN from IRS.gov now so you can start selling on those platforms. Once your business is generating steady income (maybe $20K+ annually), then revisit whether the LLC makes financial sense for liability protection and potential tax benefits. You can always form an LLC later and transfer your EIN to it - the IRS allows you to change the business structure associated with your EIN if needed.
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Jamal Anderson
•This is really helpful! I'm just getting started with my soap making business and was so confused about all this. Quick question - when you say you can transfer your EIN to an LLC later, does that process cost anything additional with the IRS? Or is it just a matter of updating your business structure with them when you file the LLC paperwork with your state? Also, did you find that having the EIN made setting up business bank accounts easier even as a sole proprietor? I keep reading conflicting info about whether banks require an EIN or if they'll accept just your SSN for business accounts.
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