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Should I create both ID.me and Login.gov accounts for IRS website access?

Title: Should I create both ID.me and Login.gov accounts for IRS website access? 1 I'm getting my tax stuff organized for next year and trying to figure out the whole online account situation with the IRS. Right now I know they use ID.me for verification to log into the IRS site, but I've been hearing rumors they might switch to Login.gov in the future? I'm confused about whether I should just create both accounts now. Like, does having both make sense? I don't fully get the difference between them honestly. Also, I'm kinda paranoid about identity theft after my cousin had issues last year. Would setting up a Login.gov account now prevent scammers from potentially creating one in my name later? Like a digital "flag planting" thing? Just trying to be prepared and have everything set up properly before the 2025 filing season hits! Any advice would be super helpful!

8 The IRS currently uses ID.me as their identity verification service, but you're right that there have been discussions about potentially transitioning to Login.gov in the future. There's no harm in setting up both accounts. ID.me is currently necessary if you want to access your IRS online account to view tax records, make payments, etc. Login.gov is the federal government's single sign-on solution used by many other government agencies like USPS, Social Security, and others. Creating a Login.gov account now could be a smart preemptive move. While it doesn't guarantee absolute protection against identity theft, establishing your identity with Login.gov first would make it harder for someone to impersonate you later if the IRS does switch platforms. Just make sure you're using strong, unique passwords for both services and enable two-factor authentication where available. Keep your recovery methods (phone numbers, backup emails) current so you don't lose access.

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14 Thanks for explaining! Do the two systems share information at all? Like if I verify my identity with ID.me, will that carry over to Login.gov somehow when/if the IRS switches?

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8 ID.me and Login.gov don't currently share verification information - they're separate systems. If the IRS transitions from ID.me to Login.gov in the future, you'll likely need to complete a new verification process with Login.gov even if you're already verified with ID.me. This is actually one reason why setting up both accounts now makes sense. You'll already have the Login.gov account established and be familiar with it if the transition happens, making the switch smoother for you when the time comes.

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5 How exactly does the monitoring work? Does it actually connect to your ID.me or Login.gov accounts or just give you general alerts about IRS security issues?

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12 They don't need access to your personal tax information to help with account setup guidance. They have tutorials and walkthroughs that guide you through the process without requiring you to share sensitive data with them. Their monitoring tool works by sending you alerts when there's unusual activity on your tax accounts or when there are important updates from the IRS about security protocols. It doesn't directly connect to your ID.me or Login.gov accounts - it's more like an early warning system for potential issues. You get notifications about IRS security changes, verification requirement updates, and suspicious activity patterns that might affect your accounts.

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5 Just wanted to share my experience! After reading about this here, I used taxr.ai to help set up both my ID.me and Login.gov accounts last month. Their step-by-step guide was super clear, especially for the ID.me verification which needs a photo ID and facial recognition. The best part was their security monitoring that alerted me when the IRS announced some new verification steps for 2025 filing season. I'm definitely feeling more prepared now! Would have taken me hours to figure out all the steps on my own since the government sites aren't exactly user-friendly lol.

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6 Wait, so how does this service actually work? Do they just call the IRS for you or something? Seems weird that a third party could get through when regular people can't.

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9 One thing to remember is that ID.me and Login.gov use different verification methods. ID.me requires facial recognition for some verification levels, which some people aren't comfortable with. Login.gov offers alternative verification options.

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3 Oh that's good to know! I have concerns about facial recognition and biometric data storage. Does Login.gov use address verification or something else instead?

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9 Login.gov has multiple verification methods. They do offer options that don't require facial recognition, including address verification through postal mail in some cases. They also use phone verification, security questions, and authentication apps. Some higher security level services might still require stronger verification, but Login.gov generally gives users more options than ID.me's approach. It's one of the reasons some people prefer it, especially those with privacy concerns around biometric data storage.

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22 Does anyone know if the IRS has officially announced when they're switching from ID.me to Login.gov? I've been hearing about this for months but haven't seen any concrete timeline.

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16 Last I heard, the IRS was still "evaluating options" with no firm date announced. They extended the ID.me contract while they figure things out. Government moves slow, ya know!

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Great question! I'd definitely recommend setting up both accounts now. The IRS transition timeline is still unclear, but having both gives you flexibility and peace of mind. A few practical tips from my experience: - ID.me verification can take 24-48 hours, so don't wait until you urgently need IRS access - Login.gov's verification process is generally faster and less invasive - Both services offer good security features, but make sure to enable 2FA on both accounts - Keep your contact info updated on both platforms since they use different recovery methods You're smart to think about the "digital flag planting" aspect - establishing your Login.gov account early does create a paper trail that could help if identity issues arise later. Plus, you'll already be familiar with the platform if/when the IRS makes the switch. The main thing is don't put it off - tax season always comes faster than expected!

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I just went through this exact situation last month! Setting up both accounts is definitely the smart move. Here's what I learned: The ID.me verification process can be a bit of a pain - you'll need to upload photos of your ID and do the facial recognition thing, which took about 2 days to get approved. Login.gov was much smoother and faster. One thing I didn't realize is that even though they're separate systems, having both accounts ready means you won't be scrambling during tax season if the IRS does switch platforms. Plus, Login.gov works for other government services too (like checking your Social Security account), so it's useful beyond just tax stuff. Pro tip: When you set up ID.me, make sure your phone number is current because they send verification codes frequently. I had to update mine halfway through and it reset part of the process. Your identity theft concern is totally valid - my neighbor had someone file a fake return using her SSN last year. Having these accounts established with strong security (definitely use 2FA!) does create an extra layer of protection.

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This is really helpful, thanks! The 2-day wait for ID.me approval is good to know - I definitely don't want to be stuck waiting during tax season. Quick question about the Login.gov other services - do you know if using it for Social Security or other agencies affects your IRS account in any way? Like, are they all connected or completely separate even though it's the same login?

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Good question! The Login.gov accounts are completely separate for each agency even though you use the same login credentials. So your Social Security account, IRS account, USPS account, etc. are all independent - they don't share information or affect each other. Think of Login.gov like a master key that opens different doors, but each room behind those doors is totally separate. Using it for Social Security won't impact your IRS access at all, and vice versa. Each agency maintains their own data and systems. This is actually one of the nice things about Login.gov - you only have to remember one set of login credentials, but your information stays compartmentalized between agencies for privacy and security reasons.

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This is such a timely question! I actually just went through this process myself after putting it off for way too long. You're absolutely right to set up both accounts now. Here's what I wish someone had told me earlier: **ID.me (currently required for IRS):** - The verification process is more intensive - photo ID, selfie, sometimes even a video call - Can take 1-3 business days for approval - Required right now if you want to access your IRS online account **Login.gov (likely future platform):** - Much simpler setup process - Usually approved within minutes - Already used by 200+ government agencies - Better privacy controls (no facial recognition required) The "digital flag planting" strategy you mentioned is actually pretty smart. Creating your Login.gov account now does establish your identity in their system, which could help prevent someone else from creating an account using your information later. I'd also recommend downloading the authentication apps for both services (they support Google Authenticator, Authy, etc.) for the strongest security. After all the tax fraud stories we've been hearing, it's worth the extra step. One last tip: Keep screenshots of your successful verifications and account setup confirmations. If you run into issues later, having that documentation can speed up customer service interactions significantly. Better to spend 30 minutes setting both up now than scrambling during tax season!

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This is incredibly helpful, thank you! The timeline breakdown is exactly what I needed to hear. I'm definitely going to prioritize getting both set up this weekend before I forget again. One follow-up question - when you mentioned downloading the authentication apps, do both ID.me and Login.gov work with the same authenticator app? Like can I use Google Authenticator for both, or do I need separate apps? Just trying to keep things as streamlined as possible while still being secure. Also really appreciate the tip about keeping screenshots of the verification process. That's the kind of detail I never would have thought of but will probably save me headaches down the road!

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Yes, you can absolutely use the same authenticator app for both! Google Authenticator, Authy, Microsoft Authenticator - they all work with both ID.me and Login.gov. When you set up 2FA on each service, they'll give you a QR code to scan, and your authenticator app will just add another entry for each service. I actually have both set up in Google Authenticator and it's super convenient - just one app with two different 6-digit codes. Just make sure to label them clearly when you add them so you don't mix them up (the app usually auto-labels them as "ID.me" and "Login.gov" anyway). Pro tip: If you use Authy instead of Google Authenticator, it has cloud backup which means you won't lose your codes if you switch phones. Learned that the hard way when I upgraded my phone last year and had to reset everything!

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I'm in a similar boat and really appreciate everyone's detailed responses here! One thing I wanted to add that I learned from my tax preparer - if you're planning to use any tax software next year (TurboTax, H&R Block, etc.), some of them are starting to integrate with these identity verification systems too. My preparer mentioned that having both ID.me and Login.gov accounts established ahead of time can actually make the e-filing process smoother, since some software now uses these for additional security checks when submitting returns electronically. Has anyone else heard about this integration? I'm curious if it's worth reaching out to whatever tax software you plan to use to see if they have any specific recommendations about which verification service to prioritize. Also, totally agree with the Authy recommendation from @Zainab - the cloud backup feature is clutch. I switched from Google Authenticator after losing access to several accounts when I broke my phone last year. Never making that mistake again!

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That's a really interesting point about tax software integration! I hadn't thought about that angle. It makes sense that they'd want additional verification layers given all the tax fraud happening lately. I use FreeTaxUSA and haven't heard anything about ID.me/Login.gov integration yet, but I'll definitely check with them before filing season. Would be nice to know ahead of time so there aren't any surprises when I'm trying to submit my return. The Authy cloud backup thing is such a good call too. I'm still using Google Authenticator like a dinosaur - definitely need to make that switch before I inevitably drop my phone or something!

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This thread has been super informative! I'm actually a tax professional and wanted to add some official perspective to help clear up the confusion. The IRS hasn't announced a definitive timeline for switching from ID.me to Login.gov, but internal communications suggest they're still in the evaluation phase through at least mid-2025. So you'll likely need ID.me for the 2025 filing season regardless. That said, absolutely create both accounts now. Here's why from a professional standpoint: **Verification timing matters:** ID.me can take 2-5 business days during peak periods (Jan-April), and Login.gov, while usually faster, can also slow down when government systems are under heavy load. **Security layers:** Having both accounts with proper 2FA does create additional identity protection. We've seen cases where clients with established government accounts had faster resolution when identity theft issues arose. **Future-proofing:** Even if the IRS doesn't switch to Login.gov, you'll use it for other federal services. It's become the standard across most agencies. One thing I tell all my clients: screenshot your account setup confirmations and store them in a secure location (encrypted cloud storage or physical file). When there are issues during tax season, having that documentation can turn a 2-hour phone call into a 10-minute resolution. The peace of mind alone is worth the 30 minutes to set both up properly!

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This professional insight is exactly what I was looking for! Thanks for clarifying the timeline - knowing that ID.me will likely still be required for 2025 filing season definitely helps me prioritize which one to set up first. The point about verification timing during peak periods is crucial. I can imagine January-April must be absolutely brutal for these systems with everyone trying to access their tax accounts at once. Getting ahead of that rush seems like a no-brainer. Really appreciate the tip about storing documentation securely too. I never would have thought about how much that could speed up customer service interactions, but it makes total sense. Nothing worse than being stuck on hold during tax season! One quick question - when you mention "internal communications" about the mid-2025 evaluation timeline, is that something the IRS has published publicly anywhere? I'd love to bookmark any official updates about the transition for future reference.

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Those internal communications aren't publicly published in a formal announcement, but they come through professional tax preparer networks and IRS stakeholder meetings. The IRS typically shares operational timelines with tax professionals before making public announcements. You can monitor official updates through IRS.gov news releases and their "What's New" section, but they tend to be pretty conservative about announcing system changes until they're very close to implementation. The most reliable source for timeline updates would be IRS Publication 5436 (Handbook for Authorized IRS e-file Providers) which gets updated annually with operational changes. For now, I'd just plan on ID.me being required for at least the 2025 filing season and treat Login.gov setup as good preparation for the future. The IRS learned some hard lessons from past system transitions, so they're being extra cautious about timing and communication this time around.

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This whole thread has been incredibly helpful! As someone who's been putting off dealing with the IRS online account situation, I really appreciate everyone sharing their experiences. I'm definitely convinced now that setting up both accounts is the way to go. The professional insight from @Lucas about the 2-5 day verification times during peak season is exactly the kind of detail I needed to hear - I would have absolutely been one of those people trying to set everything up in February and getting frustrated with the delays. One thing I'm curious about - for those who have both accounts set up, do you find yourself actually using the Login.gov account for other government services regularly? I know it works with Social Security, USPS, etc., but I'm wondering if it's actually convenient in practice or if most people just set it up and forget about it until they need it. Also really appreciate the Authy recommendations throughout this thread. I've been meaning to switch from Google Authenticator for ages and this seems like the perfect time to make that change while I'm setting up all these new accounts. Going to tackle both setups this weekend - thanks everyone for all the detailed advice!

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I actually use my Login.gov account pretty regularly! Once I got it set up, I started using it for checking my Social Security benefits online, tracking USPS packages (way better than just the tracking number), and even accessing some VA services for my spouse. The nice thing is that once you're logged into Login.gov, switching between different government services is seamless - no need to remember separate passwords for each agency. I probably use it 2-3 times a month for various things, so it's definitely not a "set it and forget it" situation. The USPS integration alone has been worth it - being able to see all your mail and packages in one dashboard is surprisingly convenient. Plus when I needed to update my address with multiple agencies last year, having Login.gov made it much easier to access all the different systems. Definitely make the Authy switch while you're at it - having that cloud backup saved me so much hassle when I upgraded my phone recently!

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This is such great advice from everyone! I'm definitely going to set up both accounts this weekend after reading all these responses. One additional thing I wanted to mention - if you're setting up both accounts, make sure you use the same email address for both services if possible. I learned this from a friend who works in IT - having consistent contact information across government platforms can really help if you ever need to prove your identity or recover access to accounts. Also, while you're in "account setup mode," this might be a good time to check that your information is current with the Social Security Administration too. I discovered last year that my address was outdated with SSA even though I'd moved two years ago, and it caused some delays when I was trying to verify my identity with ID.me. The identity theft protection aspect you mentioned is real - my neighbor had someone try to file a fraudulent return using her info, and having her government accounts already established with strong security definitely helped prove she was the legitimate taxpayer when she had to sort it all out with the IRS. Thanks for starting this discussion - it's exactly the kind of proactive thinking that saves headaches later!

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That's a really smart point about using the same email address for both services! I hadn't thought about that consistency aspect, but it makes total sense from a verification standpoint. Definitely going to keep that in mind when I set mine up. The SSA address update tip is gold too - I moved about a year ago and I'm pretty sure I never updated my address with them. That's going on my weekend to-do list along with the ID.me and Login.gov setup. Better to discover any issues now rather than when I'm trying to file my taxes in a rush! It's crazy how these seemingly small details can cause such big headaches later. This whole thread has been like a masterclass in being proactive with government account management. Really appreciate everyone sharing their experiences and lessons learned!

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This thread is incredibly thorough and helpful! As someone who works in cybersecurity, I wanted to add one more layer to the security discussion that hasn't been mentioned yet. When you're setting up both accounts, consider using a password manager (like Bitwarden, 1Password, or Dashlane) to generate and store unique, complex passwords for each service. Even though you'll primarily be using 2FA codes to log in, having strong unique passwords as your first line of defense is crucial for government accounts. Also, a quick heads up about the ID.me facial recognition process - if you wear glasses, have facial hair, or have changed your appearance significantly since your driver's license photo, be prepared for potential verification delays. I've seen people get stuck in manual review for several days because of appearance mismatches. One more security tip: after you set up both accounts, log out completely and then test logging back in to make sure everything works smoothly. There's nothing worse than discovering authentication issues when you're under deadline pressure during tax season! The "digital flag planting" strategy you mentioned is spot on - establishing your identity early creates a stronger paper trail and makes it much harder for bad actors to impersonate you later.

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This cybersecurity perspective is super valuable, thank you! The password manager recommendation is spot-on - I've been meaning to set one up for ages and this seems like the perfect opportunity to finally do it properly. The heads up about facial recognition issues is really helpful too. I actually do wear glasses and have grown a beard since my last license renewal, so I'll definitely be prepared for potential delays with the ID.me verification. Better to know that going in than be surprised by it! The tip about testing the login process after setup is brilliant - such a simple thing but I probably would have skipped that step and ended up discovering problems at the worst possible time. Really appreciate the practical cybersecurity advice alongside all the other great guidance in this thread!

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