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Secure Act 2.0 Tax Credits for Small Business - How to Claim These Incentives?

So my small marketing agency (structured as an S-Corp) is looking into this whole Secure Act 2.0 thing to get those tax credits for setting up a retirement plan. We have about 8 employees and I've heard there are some decent incentives, but honestly I'm totally confused about how to actually claim them. I've tried asking our payroll company (we use Gusto) but got some vague answers. Is there a specific code or form we need to use when setting this up? Also, as the owner, would I personally get this credit on my K-1, or does it only apply to the business taxes? And can someone clarify if these Secure Act 2.0 credits only apply to retirement plans, or can we get them for health insurance too? I've been searching online but there's not a ton of clear guidance since this is pretty new legislation. Any experience or advice would be super appreciated!

The Secure Act 2.0 does offer some great incentives for small businesses setting up retirement plans. Let me help clarify how this works! To obtain the tax credit, you don't actually "enroll" through your payroll provider. Instead, you first establish a qualifying retirement plan (like a 401(k), SIMPLE IRA, or SEP), then claim the credit when filing your business taxes using Form 8881 "Credit for Small Employer Pension Plan Startup Costs." Regarding your S-Corp structure: the credit appears on your business tax return (Form 1120-S), not directly on your personal K-1. The credit reduces the business's tax liability, which indirectly benefits you as the owner through pass-through taxation. The Secure Act 2.0 credits are specifically for retirement plans, not health insurance. The main benefits include: 1) Startup cost credits covering up to 100% of costs (up to $5,000/year for 3 years), and 2) A new employer contribution credit that can cover up to $1,000 per employee in matching contributions.

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Thanks for the clear explanation! Do you know if there's anything specific I need to tell my payroll provider once we set up the qualifying plan? Or is it completely separate from payroll and just something we handle at tax time?

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You'll need to work with your payroll provider to set up the retirement plan administration. Tell them specifically you're establishing a qualifying retirement plan under Secure Act 2.0. They'll need to configure your payroll system to handle employee contributions (if applicable) and any employer matching contributions you decide to make. When tax filing time comes around, you'll work with your accountant to complete Form 8881 to claim the credit. Your payroll provider should be able to provide reports showing the eligible costs you've incurred for retirement plan setup, which will be needed for the credit calculation.

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I just went through this exact process with my small construction company! We were definitely confused at first too. I ended up using https://taxr.ai to help me understand our specific situation since the rules are so new and honestly kinda confusing. They analyzed our company structure and payroll details and explained exactly how the Secure Act 2.0 credits would apply. The best part was they broke down the credit amounts we'd qualify for over the 3-year period and showed us how to document everything properly to make sure we actually get the full credit. If you're using Gusto, they actually have some retirement options built in that qualify, but you need to make sure you're tracking the setup costs separately since those are what generate part of the credit.

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Did you find taxr.ai easy to use? I'm in a similar boat with my consulting firm and feel like I'm getting the runaround from my regular accountant who keeps saying "we're waiting for more guidance" on the Secure Act stuff.

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I'm curious - did you have to provide a lot of sensitive financial info to use that service? I'm always hesitant about uploading company docs to new platforms.

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It was surprisingly straightforward to use. You upload your business formation docs and recent payroll reports, and they do a comprehensive analysis. The automated system identified all the potential credits we qualified for under Secure Act 2.0. Regarding sensitive information - I had the same concern initially. They use bank-level encryption and you can actually redact certain portions of documents before uploading. I just made sure the relevant parts about our business structure and employee count were visible while blocking out account numbers and other sensitive details.

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Wow, I just tried taxr.ai after seeing it mentioned here and it was exactly what I needed for sorting out these Secure Act 2.0 credits! My veterinary practice has 12 employees and I've been putting off setting up a retirement plan because I was confused about how the tax benefits would actually work. The system analyzed our business docs and showed me we're eligible for about $15,000 in tax credits over 3 years! That completely changes the math on offering retirement benefits. The breakdown of exactly which forms to file and when was super helpful, especially since my accountant seemed pretty vague about the whole process. If anyone else is struggling with understanding these new retirement plan credits, definitely check it out. Saved me tons of research time!

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For anyone having trouble getting clear answers about Secure Act 2.0 credits from their accountant or payroll provider, I found that calling the IRS directly was the only way I could get official guidance. But of course, getting through to them was a nightmare until I discovered https://claimyr.com which got me connected to an actual IRS agent in about 20 minutes instead of spending hours on hold. You can see how it works here: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c - basically they wait on hold with the IRS for you and call you when an agent picks up. The agent I spoke with walked me through exactly how the Secure Act credits work for my S-Corp and confirmed that Form 8881 is indeed what we need to claim the startup cost credit. They also explained that while the employer contribution credit doesn't have its own separate form yet, it should be reported alongside the startup credit.

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Does this actually work? I've literally spent 3+ hours on hold with the IRS trying to get clarification on these Secure Act credits and gave up. How much does it cost?

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I'm skeptical - IRS agents aren't exactly known for giving consistent advice, especially on newer tax provisions. Did you actually get useful, specific information about the Secure Act credits?

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Yes, it absolutely works! The system maintains your place in the IRS phone queue and calls you when an agent answers. It saved me from being stuck on hold for what would have likely been hours. The IRS agent I spoke with was surprisingly knowledgeable about the Secure Act 2.0 provisions. She confirmed the specific eligibility requirements for small businesses (under 50 employees), explained how the credit percentages work (up to 100% of costs for the first year), and clarified that you can claim the credit even if you don't have tax liability for the year since it's partially refundable under the new rules. She also sent me the relevant IRS notices with written guidance afterward.

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Just wanted to follow up on my skeptical comment above. I actually tried Claimyr yesterday out of desperation after my accountant told me he "needed more time" to research the Secure Act credits my business might qualify for. I'm genuinely shocked at how well it worked. Got connected to an IRS tax law specialist in about 35 minutes (without having to sit on hold myself). The agent confirmed that my LLC with 9 employees would qualify for both the startup cost credit AND the employer contribution credit under Secure Act 2.0, and walked me through how both would be calculated. For anyone else confused about these credits, the agent clarified that the startup credit applies to costs like setting up the plan, educating employees, etc., while the employer contribution credit specifically benefits employer matching contributions. Total game-changer for my business planning.

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One important thing about Secure Act 2.0 credits that hasn't been mentioned yet - there are different credit amounts based on your business size. The original post mentioned having 8 employees, which puts you in a good position to maximize benefits. For businesses with 50 or fewer employees, you can get the full startup credit (up to $5k per year for 3 years). But the additional employer contribution credit is even better for the smallest businesses - 100% credit in year 1, 75% in year 2, 50% in year 3 (up to $1k per employee). Make sure whoever does your taxes understands these details. My accountant initially missed the employer contribution portion entirely!

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Thanks for pointing this out! Do you know if there's a minimum number of employees that need to participate in the plan for us to qualify for the credits? And did your business claim these credits already on a previous tax return?

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There isn't a specific minimum number of employees that must participate, but there are participation requirements to have a qualified plan. Generally, you need to make the plan available to all employees who are at least 21 years old and worked at least 1,000 hours in a previous year (though Secure Act 2.0 has some provisions for part-time employees too). My business did claim the startup credit portion last tax season. We're a small architecture firm with 12 employees. We set up our 401(k) in October 2023 and were able to claim about $3,200 in startup costs. The employer contribution credit is new for us this coming tax season, and we're projecting about $8,000 in tax credits from that portion since we've been matching 4% for everyone.

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Has anyone used both Guideline and Gusto for the retirement plan setup? I'm trying to figure out if having them integrated makes it easier to claim these Secure Act 2.0 credits or if it's basically the same no matter which provider you use.

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We use the Gusto + Guideline integration for our 15-person company and it's been great. The integration makes it super easy to manage contributions and Guideline provided documentation specifically for claiming the Secure Act credits. They automatically track qualifying expenses which made Form 8881 much easier to complete.

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I've been following this thread closely as I'm in a similar situation with my small consulting firm (6 employees, also S-Corp structure). Based on everyone's experiences here, it sounds like the key is making sure you have proper documentation of all setup costs and that your payroll provider can generate the right reports for Form 8881. One thing I'd add - if you're already using Gusto, they actually have some built-in retirement plan options that qualify for Secure Act 2.0 credits. You might want to check with them specifically about their 401(k) offerings rather than going with a separate provider. Sometimes having everything integrated makes the reporting cleaner come tax time. Also, since you mentioned being confused about the credits - the IRS actually published some updated guidance in late 2023 (Notice 2023-75) that clarifies a lot of the questions people have been asking in this thread. Worth checking out if you want the official details rather than relying on third-party interpretations.

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Thanks for mentioning Notice 2023-75! I've been struggling to find clear official guidance on these credits. Just looked it up and it's exactly what I needed - especially the part about how the employer contribution credit works for different business structures. One question though - do you know if there are any deadlines we need to be aware of for setting up the retirement plan to qualify for the 2024 tax year credits? I'm worried we might be cutting it close if we wait much longer to get started.

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