Schedule C or 1065 for single-member LLC without profit - which tax form do I file?
My cousin recently started an LLC last year as the only member and hasn't turned a profit yet. She's starting to panic as the March 15th deadline is coming up quick, and she's confused about what she needs to file. She keeps going back and forth between whether she needs to submit a 1065 Partnership return or just include a Schedule C with her personal taxes. When she looked at the IRS website, there was something about single-member LLCs being treated as sole proprietorships, but she's not 100% clear what that means for her filing requirements. Does anyone know if she needs to file Form 1065 by March 15th, or can she just do Schedule C with her personal return in April? She's worried about missing deadlines and getting hit with penalties if she files the wrong thing or at the wrong time. Any help would be super appreciated!
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Elijah O'Reilly
A single-member LLC is treated as a "disregarded entity" for federal tax purposes unless you've specifically elected to be taxed as a corporation. This means your cousin doesn't need to file Form 1065 (which is for partnerships with multiple members). Your cousin would just report the business income and expenses on Schedule C attached to her personal Form 1040. The April tax deadline would apply, not the March 15th partnership deadline. This is actually simpler paperwork-wise! Even though she hasn't made a profit, she should still file Schedule C to report her business expenses. Those losses can potentially offset other income on her personal return. Make sure she keeps good records of all business expenses to maximize any potential tax benefits.
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Amara Torres
•Thanks for the info! I'm in a similar situation. Does my LLC need its own EIN number if I'm just filing Schedule C? Also, does state filing work the same way?
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Elijah O'Reilly
•You don't technically need an EIN for a single-member LLC reporting on Schedule C - you can use your Social Security Number instead. However, getting an EIN is often recommended for business purposes like opening bank accounts and keeping personal/business finances separate. State filing requirements vary by location. Many states do require separate LLC filings or annual reports regardless of federal tax treatment. Check with your specific state's business filing website to confirm their requirements, as some have annual fees or reports even if you don't file a separate federal tax return.
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Olivia Van-Cleve
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Mason Kaczka
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Sophia Russo
•Sounds like an ad. Do they actually provide specific advice for your state too? Because that's where most people mess up with LLCs.
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Olivia Van-Cleve
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Mason Kaczka
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Evelyn Xu
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Dominic Green
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Hannah Flores
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Hannah Flores
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Kayla Jacobson
Just wanted to add a quick clarification that might help others - the default federal tax treatment for single-member LLCs is disregarded entity status (Schedule C), but you can elect to be taxed as an S-Corp or C-Corp by filing Form 8832 if that makes sense for your situation. Most new business owners with no profit yet are better off with the default Schedule C treatment, but as your business grows and becomes profitable, you might want to revisit the tax treatment. I switched to S-Corp status after my business started making about $80k in profit to save on self-employment taxes.
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Natalie Adams
•Thanks everyone for the helpful advice! My cousin was really confused about what to do. How much would she need to be making in profit before considering changing from Schedule C to S-Corp status?
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Kayla Jacobson
•It depends on several factors, but generally, many tax professionals suggest considering S-Corp election when you're consistently profiting around $40,000-$60,000 or more. At that point, the savings on self-employment taxes can outweigh the additional costs and compliance requirements. Remember that S-Corps require you to pay yourself a "reasonable salary" subject to full employment taxes, with only the remaining profits avoiding self-employment tax. You'll also have more paperwork, possibly higher accounting costs, and required payroll processing. For a new business without profit, Schedule C is almost always the simpler and better choice until you're established and consistently profitable.
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William Rivera
Don't forget about state requirements! The federal tax treatment as a disregarded entity doesn't necessarily mean your state treats it the same way. Here in California, even single-member LLCs have to pay an $800 annual tax regardless of profit, plus an LLC fee based on gross receipts if over $250,000.
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Grace Lee
•Ugh, California's $800 LLC tax is so ridiculous for small businesses! I moved mine to Wyoming and just registered as a foreign entity doing business in CA. Saved me thousands.
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Jungleboo Soletrain
Your cousin is definitely on the right track worrying about deadlines, but she can breathe a little easier! As a single-member LLC, she's considered a "disregarded entity" by the IRS, which means no Form 1065 needed - just Schedule C with her personal return by the April deadline. Even without profit, filing Schedule C is still important because she can deduct business expenses and potentially carry forward any losses to offset future income. Make sure she keeps detailed records of all business expenses like office supplies, equipment, business meals, etc. One thing to watch out for - while federal filing is straightforward with Schedule C, each state has its own LLC requirements. Some states require annual reports or have minimum taxes regardless of profit level. She should check her state's Secretary of State website to make sure she's not missing any state-specific deadlines or filings.
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Laila Fury
•This is really helpful! I'm just starting my own single-member LLC and was getting overwhelmed by all the conflicting information online. The point about state requirements is crucial - I almost forgot to check what my state needs beyond the federal filing. Quick question - when you mention deducting business expenses on Schedule C even without profit, does that include startup costs like legal fees for forming the LLC and initial equipment purchases? Or do those get treated differently?
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