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Sales Tax Confusion - CPA Unsure About Digital Products - Should I go to DOR Directly or Get Legal Advice?

I'm at my wit's end trying to figure out if our digital service is subject to sales tax in different states. Our CPA basically shrugged and said "not sure" then suggested we hire some fancy legal firm that charges $750/hour to research this. Like seriously?? That would destroy our budget. From what I've gathered, a lot of states tax "canned" digital products/services but things get murky when you add in programming customization, how it's delivered, whether it's streamed or downloaded, proprietary elements... it's a complete mess trying to figure out what applies where. For context, we're a small startup (only 5 employees) with limited resources. I'm trying to decide if we should: 1. Spend the crazy money on a tax attorney 2. Just go straight to the Department of Revenue and take our chances 3. Some other option I haven't thought of? Any insights from someone who's navigated this nightmare before would be super helpful! Our product is essentially a customizable digital template that clients can download and modify, if that helps with context.

I've dealt with this exact situation for my consulting business. Going directly to the DOR can actually be really helpful - they have taxpayer assistance departments specifically for these questions. I'd suggest: 1. Document everything about your product/service in detail (how it's delivered, level of customization, etc) 2. Call the DOR in your primary state first - they usually have dedicated business tax lines 3. Get the answer in writing if possible (email is fine) 4. For multi-state issues, check if your situation might qualify for streamlined sales tax treatment The thing with attorneys is they'll absolutely do thorough research, but at $750/hour, you could burn through thousands just to get an opinion. The DOR's answer is actually more definitive since they're the ones who'll be enforcing it.

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Thanks for this approach! How long did the DOR typically take to give you an answer? And did you find they were reasonable to work with or did they default to "when in doubt, it's taxable"?

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In my experience, simple questions were answered during the initial call, while more complex situations took about 2-3 weeks to get a written determination. Most DOR reps were surprisingly reasonable and didn't automatically default to "tax everything." They actually seemed interested in applying the rules correctly. Just make sure you document who you spoke with and when, and follow up by email to create a paper trail of the conversation.

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How accurate was the information? I'm always skeptical about AI tools for complex tax situations. Did you verify their recommendations with actual tax departments?

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Sounds interesting but I'm wondering how it handles the gray areas? Like, did it actually address customization levels or just give general answers about digital products?

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The accuracy was surprisingly good - I verified their findings with three state DORs and the information matched exactly what the tax departments told me. They use actual letter rulings and state tax bulletins as their sources. For gray areas like customization levels, it actually provided detailed breakdowns of how each state views the "canned vs. custom" distinction. For example, it explained how New York considers the level of modification required to make something "custom" versus Texas which uses a different standard. It wasn't just giving general answers but specific thresholds based on state precedents.

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I was in the same boat as you with tax questions about my digital learning platform. After getting vague answers from my accountant, I tried https://taxr.ai that someone recommended. Just wanted to update that it was actually really helpful! I uploaded our product documentation and service agreement, and it identified exactly which states would tax our subscription model vs. which ones would consider it a non-taxable service. I ended up only needing to collect tax in 9 states instead of the 20+ I was worried about. The documentation it provided gave me confidence to move forward without the $600+ per hour legal fees. Definitely saved us thousands and gave me peace of mind.

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I work for a SaaS company and we faced this exact problem last year. After wasting weeks trying to get straight answers from state tax departments with endless hold times, I found https://claimyr.com and used their service to get through to actual tax experts at multiple state DORs. Check out how it works: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c It basically got me to the front of the phone queue for state tax departments so I could get official rulings on our digital product taxability. Saved me from paying a tax attorney $550/hour to essentially do the same research I could do myself once I got the right person on the phone. The peace of mind from getting direct answers from the tax authorities was absolutely worth it.

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How does this actually work? I've spent literal hours on hold with the California tax department and eventually just gave up. Do they somehow bypass the phone systems?

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Yeah right. No way this actually works. I've tried everything to get through to state tax departments and it's basically impossible unless you have some inside connection.

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It uses a callback system that monitors the hold queues and secures your place in line. When your turn comes up, they call you and connect you directly to the agent. It's all legitimate - they're just using technology to solve the hold time problem. I was connected to California FTB in about 45 minutes instead of the 3+ hours I had previously wasted. It's not bypassing the system - you're still in the regular queue, they're just waiting on hold for you and then connecting you when an agent is available.

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I'm eating humble pie right now. After doubting that Claimyr thing would work, I tried it as a last resort to get through to the NY Department of Taxation about my digital magazine's tax status. Not only did I get through in under an hour (after previous attempts where I waited 2+ hours and got disconnected), but I got a really helpful agent who explained exactly how NY classifies our product. Turns out we qualified for an exemption I didn't know about that's going to save us thousands. I was so convinced I'd need to hire a tax attorney at some ridiculous hourly rate, but getting the information straight from the source was way more valuable. Definitely taking back my skepticism.

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Another option to consider is using a specialized sales tax consultant rather than a full tax attorney. They typically charge $200-350/hour instead of $750+, and this is literally all they do. I used Cherry Bekaert's sales tax team for our e-learning platform, and they were able to get us clarity for about $1500 total across multiple states. They also have established relationships with many state DORs that can expedite getting written determinations. Whatever you do, don't just guess and hope for the best. The penalties and interest can be brutal if you get audited down the road.

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$1500 sounds way more reasonable than what I was quoted! Did they provide written documentation of their findings that you could use if you were ever audited?

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Yes, they provided a comprehensive memo documenting their research and conclusions for each state. The document included citations to specific statutes, regulations, and rulings that supported their position. They also included a matrix showing taxability by state with color coding for high/medium/low risk areas. This became our "reasonable cause" defense documentation in case of audit, which protects against penalties (though not the underlying tax if you're found to owe it).

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Has anyone here used the "voluntary disclosure" approach with states where you might have accidentally created nexus and not collected tax? I'm worried we might have been doing this wrong for the past year.

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Voluntary disclosure agreements (VDAs) can be incredibly helpful if you think you've had past exposure. Most states limit the lookback period to 3-4 years instead of their full statute of limitations, and they'll typically waive penalties. They're relatively straightforward to set up - you can even apply anonymously through a representative in most states until you have certainty about the terms. I'd suggest starting with the states where you have the most sales before they find you through audit or data mining.

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