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Need help with 1040 Schedule 1 - Including tips as other income?

I'm working part time at a restaurant and currently filling out my taxes. I'm stuck on the Schedule 1 form for my 1040 and confused about how to report my income properly. I notice it asks if I have any "other income" but I'm already completing Form 4137 for my unreported cash tips. Should I also include these same tips in the "other income" box on Schedule 1? Or would that be double-reporting the same income? This is my first time dealing with tips on my taxes and I don't want to mess anything up. Any help would be appreciated!

Dmitry Ivanov

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The good news is you're on the right track by using Form 4137 for your unreported cash tips (tips that weren't reported to your employer). This form calculates the Social Security and Medicare taxes owed on those tips. For your specific question - no, you don't need to include these tips again in the "other income" box on Schedule 1. The purpose of Form 4137 is to ensure proper tax treatment of unreported tips, but those tips are still considered part of your wages, not "other income." The other income section is for things like gambling winnings, jury duty pay, hobby income, etc. Make sure the tips from Form 4137 are included on your Form 1040 Line 1, which shows your total wages. The tax software should handle this correctly if you're using one, but it's good to double-check.

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Ava Garcia

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So if I have cash tips that I reported to my employer and they're already included in my W-2, I don't need Form 4137 at all, right? Just making sure I'm doing this right too!

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Dmitry Ivanov

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That's exactly right. Form 4137 is only needed for tips you did NOT report to your employer. If you properly reported all your tips to your employer and they're included on your W-2, then you don't need Form 4137 at all. If you did both - reported some tips to your employer and kept some unreported - then you'd only use Form 4137 for the unreported portion.

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Paolo Ricci

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Amina Toure

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What about income from selling stuff on eBay or Facebook Marketplace? Does that count as "other income" on Schedule 1?

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Paolo Ricci

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It depends on whether you're selling items as a business or just occasionally selling personal items. If you're regularly buying things to resell for profit, that's considered business income and should go on Schedule C, not as "other income" on Schedule 1. If you're just occasionally selling personal belongings (like cleaning out your closet), and selling them for less than you paid originally, you generally don't need to report it at all since there's no gain.

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Anyone know if DoorDash/UberEats delivery tips count as regular tips for tax purposes? My brother said I need a different form for those...

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DoorDash/UberEats delivery people are considered independent contractors, not employees. Your tips are part of your self-employment income and should be reported on Schedule C along with your other earnings from these platforms. You don't use Form 4137 for these types of tips.

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