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Mateo Rodriguez

My 13-year-old helps with my photography business - W2 vs 1099 dilemma for family employment

My teenage son just turned 13 and has started helping me with my photography side business. He's got a good eye and actually helps with setup, editing, and some customer service stuff. My wife and I have been contributing to his 529 college fund since he was born, but now we're thinking of a different approach. We'd like to take the money we'd pay him for helping (about $9K-13K annually) and put that directly into his 529 account, creating a tax deduction for my photography business. Last year, we just treated him as a 1099 contractor, but now he's on the hook for self-employment taxes (which we're fine with for this past year). I've been researching and it looks like if we switch him to W2 employee status and keep him under the federal minimum earned amount ($13,850), he wouldn't owe any taxes at all. This seems like the smarter route. Here's what I need help with: What's the actual process for making my son a W2 employee? His income will fluctuate throughout the year based on how many gigs we book. I think we need to notify Social Security and our state quarterly (and annually?), but we're hoping to avoid paying unemployment or other taxes since he won't make enough to trigger those requirements anyway. I know there's more paperwork involved with a W2 vs 1099, but what exactly are those forms and when/where do I need to file them?

Aisha Hussain

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Based on what you're describing, here's how you can set up your son as a W2 employee for your photography business: First, you'll need to get an Employer Identification Number (EIN) if you don't already have one for your photography business. You can apply online through the IRS website - it takes just a few minutes. Next, have your son complete Form W-4 which determines tax withholding. Since he'll be earning under the standard deduction, he can claim exemption from withholding. You'll need to register with your state's employment department as an employer. Each state has different requirements, but most have online registration systems. For payroll, you'll need to maintain records of hours worked and wages paid. You'll file quarterly Form 941 (Employer's Quarterly Federal Tax Return) even if you're not withholding taxes. At year-end, you'll need to prepare a W-2 form for him and file copies with the Social Security Administration. The good news is that family businesses have some exclusions. If your business is a sole proprietorship, payments to your child under 18 aren't subject to FICA (Social Security and Medicare) taxes, and payments to your child under 21 aren't subject to federal unemployment (FUTA) taxes.

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This is super helpful, but I'm confused about one thing - if I make my son a W2 employee, do I have to pay him a regular salary every month? Or can I just pay him when he actually helps with photography jobs? Also, are there minimum wage requirements I need to follow even though he's my child?

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Aisha Hussain

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You don't need to pay your child on a strict regular schedule like you would a traditional employee. You can pay him when he works on specific photography jobs, similar to how you've been doing. Just make sure you keep accurate records of hours worked and tasks performed to justify the payments. Regarding minimum wage, there's actually a family business exemption here as well. The federal Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA) has an exemption for children employed by their parents in a non-agricultural business. This means federal minimum wage requirements don't apply when parents employ their own children. However, some states have their own rules, so it's worth checking your specific state regulations.

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Make sure you're keeping REALLY good records of the actual work your son is doing. I got audited a few years back because I was employing my kid in my business. The IRS wanted proof that my daughter (who was 14 at the time) was actually performing legitimate services and that I wasn't just shifting income to her for tax purposes. I recommend having your son keep a detailed log of hours worked and specific tasks performed. Take photos of him working when appropriate. Have email/text communications about the work. Pay reasonable wages based on what you'd pay someone else for the same work. Also important: pay directly to him (not to the 529 directly). He needs to receive the money first, then he (or you on his behalf) can contribute to the 529. The money needs to be his first.

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This is great advice about documentation. I hadn't thought about taking photos of him working as evidence. Is there a specific format you'd recommend for the work log? Like a spreadsheet or something more formal? And for paying him, should I set up a separate bank account in his name?

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I used a simple Google spreadsheet with columns for date, start time, end time, total hours, hourly rate, total pay, and a detailed description of tasks. I had my daughter fill it out daily when she worked and I'd review it weekly. Nothing fancy, but consistent documentation is what matters. Definitely set up a separate bank account in his name. I opened a custodial account for my daughter and had her paychecks direct deposited there. This creates a clear paper trail showing the money was actually paid to her. Having a separate account also makes it easier to track when money moves from his earnings to the 529 contribution. The account statements become additional documentation of the legitimate business relationship.

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Mei Zhang

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Small but important correction to what's been said: just because your son earns less than the standard deduction ($13,850) doesn't automatically mean no taxes. If he earns more than $400 as a 1099, he still owes self-employment tax even if he owes no income tax. But as a W2 employee in a parent-owned sole proprietorship, children under 18 are exempt from FICA taxes (social security and medicare), which is 15.3%. That's a huge savings right there! Also, check if your state honors this federal exemption. Some states follow federal rules for family employment but others have their own requirements.

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Liam McGuire

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But doesn't the parent/business owner still have to pay the employer portion of FICA even if the kid is exempt?

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Mei Zhang

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No, that's the beauty of this exemption. When a child under 18 works for a parent's sole proprietorship, both the employer and employee portions of FICA taxes are exempt. So neither you nor your child pays the 15.3% FICA tax. The exemption applies to both halves of the tax. This only works for sole proprietorships and partnerships where both partners are the child's parents. If your business is an LLC taxed as a corporation or an S-Corp, this specific exemption doesn't apply and you'd have to pay both portions of FICA like any other employee.

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