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Niko Ramsey

Missed 4th estimated tax payment deadline - how to pay now? Direct Pay won't let me make 2021 estimated payment anymore

I totally spaced on making my fourth estimated tax payment that was due January 15th. Now I'm trying to catch up but I'm running into a roadblock with IRS Direct Pay. When I go to the website, it only gives me 2022 as an option for estimated tax payments - there's no way to select 2021 anymore. I've been staring at the screen trying to figure this out for like 20 minutes. Does anyone know if I should just select "balance due" instead of "estimated tax" at this point? Or is there some other way to make this payment? I don't want to mess things up more by selecting the wrong option, but I also don't want to get hit with even more penalties than I'm probably already facing. Help!

You're not in as much trouble as you might think! At this point, you don't need to make a separate estimated tax payment for 2021. Since we're past January 15th, you should just include that amount when you file your 2021 tax return. When you complete your tax return, you'll calculate if you owe any underpayment penalties using Form 2210. The IRS will basically compare what you should have paid throughout the year versus what you actually paid. The penalty isn't huge - it's interest based on the shortfall. If you want to minimize penalties before filing, you can make a payment using the "balance due" option in Direct Pay. This will be applied to your overall 2021 tax account rather than being specifically marked as that 4th estimated payment. Just make sure you select "2021" as the tax year and "balance due" or "tax return" as the payment type. The main thing is to get your payment in as soon as possible to stop additional interest from accruing!

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Niko Ramsey

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Thanks for the info! So just to be clear, I should select "balance due" instead of "estimated tax payment" on Direct Pay? And doing this won't cause any confusion when I file my actual return in April?

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Yes, select "balance due" and make sure you choose 2021 as the tax year. This won't cause any confusion when you file - the IRS just applies payments to your overall account. When you file your return, you'll report all the estimated payments you made in 2021 (the first three quarters), and this payment will simply reduce any remaining balance you might owe. The IRS doesn't actually care which "bucket" the money goes into once the estimated payment deadline has passed - they just want their money! Just keep records of when you made this payment so you can refer to it if needed.

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Just wanted to share that I had this same issue last year but handled it differently. I just waited and filed my taxes normally, making sure to include all the estimated payments I had actually made on my return. When I filed, I ended up having to pay an underpayment penalty, but it was only like $42 on a missed payment of around $2,500. The software I used (TurboTax) automatically calculated the penalty on Form 2210. It wasn't worth all the stress I put myself through worrying about it. Just make the payment as "balance due" now if you want to minimize the penalty, or just wait until you file. Either way, it's not going to break the bank.

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Marcus Marsh

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Did you have to fill out the full Form 2210 with all the calculations, or did TurboTax handle that for you? That form looks super complicated and I'm wondering if I need to pay extra for that feature.

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TurboTax handled all the calculations automatically for me. I didn't have to manually fill out anything on Form 2210. The software asked about my estimated payments throughout the year, and when it detected that I had missed one, it just did the math in the background. You shouldn't need to pay extra for this feature - it's part of their standard tax return preparation. The form is definitely complicated if you try to do it manually, but that's the beauty of tax software. Just make sure you accurately enter the dates and amounts of the estimated payments you did make.

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Quick question related to this - if I make a payment as "balance due" now for the estimated payment I missed, do I still have to fill out Form 2210 when I file my taxes? Or will the IRS just figure out the penalty on their own?

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You'll still need to complete Form 2210 when you file. Making a payment now as "balance due" helps reduce further interest from accruing, but it doesn't eliminate the need to calculate the penalty for the period the payment was late. Most tax software will handle this calculation automatically if you enter all your payment information correctly. If you're filing by paper, you'll need to complete the form yourself. The IRS can also calculate the penalty for you if you don't include the form, but they may not apply all exceptions or calculate it as favorably as you might.

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Niko Ramsey

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I'm in the same boat as you and just made my payment using "balance due" yesterday. My tax guy told me that we'll handle the Form 2210 when filing, and that the penalty won't be huge since my first three estimated payments were made on time. I'll report back after filing to let you know how it went!

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