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Kid's unearned income in 2025: Do the filing threshold rules change annually?

I'm trying to figure out if my kids need to file taxes for their investment accounts this year. Last year, I had to include their dividend income on my tax return using Form 8615 because they exceeded some threshold. But it seems like the rules might be different for 2025? Each of my kids has an investment account with Vanguard with almost identical amounts: Ordinary dividends: $190 Qualified dividends: $165 Total Capital Gain Distributions: $1,850 Last year was a headache filing that Form 8615, but if I'm understanding correctly, they might be under the $2300 filing requirement now? Does anyone know if this threshold changes year to year, and am I right that they don't need to file for 2025 based on these numbers?

The unearned income filing threshold for dependents does adjust slightly each year with inflation. For 2025, you're correct that the threshold is $2,300. This means if your child's unearned income (dividends, capital gains, interest) is under $2,300, there's generally no filing requirement specifically because of that income. Looking at your numbers, each child has: $190 (Ordinary dividends) + $1,850 (Capital Gain Distributions) = $2,040 total unearned income Since each child's total is below the $2,300 threshold, you shouldn't need to file Form 8615 for them this year. Just remember that qualified dividends are already included in the ordinary dividends amount, so don't add those separately or you'll be double counting.

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Wait, so the $2,300 threshold includes ALL unearned income combined? I thought maybe it was separate for dividends vs capital gains. Also, does it matter if the money just stays in the investment account and gets reinvested vs if they actually take the money out?

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Yes, the $2,300 threshold applies to the combined total of all unearned income - dividends, interest, capital gains, everything together. There's no separate threshold for different types of unearned income. Whether the money is reinvested or withdrawn doesn't matter for tax purposes. The IRS considers the income "realized" when the dividends or distributions are paid to the account, regardless of whether you withdraw the money or reinvest it immediately.

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Just a quick heads-up that even if your kids don't have to file, you should still keep track of all reinvested dividends and capital gains distributions. These increase the cost basis of the shares, which will reduce the taxable gain when they eventually sell. I learned this the hard way when my son sold some shares last year and we had no records of reinvested dividends from the previous 5 years!

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Do you need to file anything with the IRS to document the increased cost basis from reinvested dividends? Or just keep records on your own? And does Vanguard track this automatically or do we need to calculate it ourselves?

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You don't need to file anything with the IRS specifically for the cost basis adjustments. Just keep good records for your own documentation. Most major brokerages like Vanguard do track cost basis for shares purchased after 2011 (when the law changed requiring them to report it), but it's always good practice to keep your own records too. For shares purchased before 2011, you're completely responsible for tracking cost basis adjustments from reinvested dividends yourself.

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One thing to watch out for - the filing requirements can also be triggered if your child has earned income plus unearned income that together exceed the standard deduction (around $14,600 for 2025). My teenager had a summer job AND investment income, and even though neither would require filing on their own, the combination did. The tax software I was using completely missed this!

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This is so true! My daughter made about $8,000 at her part-time job and had about $1,500 in dividends from her grandparent's gift account. We thought we were fine until our accountant caught it. The rules get complicated fast when you mix earned and unearned income.

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Great question! Yes, the filing thresholds do change annually based on inflation adjustments. For 2025, the unearned income threshold for dependents is $2,300, so you're absolutely right that your kids likely don't need to file this year. Looking at your numbers: $190 (ordinary dividends) + $1,850 (capital gains distributions) = $2,040 total unearned income per child. Since this is under the $2,300 threshold, no Form 8615 filing should be required. Just double-check that the $190 in ordinary dividends already includes the qualified dividends (it usually does on most brokerage statements), so you don't want to add the $165 qualified dividends on top of that. Also keep good records of any reinvested distributions for future cost basis calculations, even if you're not filing now. The IRS publishes these updated thresholds each year in Publication 929 if you want to bookmark it for future reference!

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Thanks for the clear breakdown! I'm new to dealing with kids' investment accounts and this is really helpful. One quick question - when you mention Publication 929, is that something that gets updated every year around tax season? I want to make sure I'm checking the right source for 2026 when that time comes around. Also, do these threshold adjustments usually go up by a significant amount or is it typically just small changes?

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@Ethan Wilson Publication 929 typically gets updated annually, usually by late fall or early winter for the upcoming tax year. The IRS releases these publications well before filing season so you have time to plan. As for the threshold adjustments, they re'usually modest - typically increasing by $50-$100 per year based on inflation. For example, the unearned income threshold was $2,200 in 2023, $2,300 in 2024, and remains $2,300 for 2025. Some years there s'no change at all if inflation is minimal. I d'recommend bookmarking the IRS Publication 929 page and checking it each December for the following year s'thresholds. That way you can plan ahead for any investment account decisions or know whether you need to start preparing for potential filings.

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Yes, Publication 929 gets updated annually, usually by late December or early January for the upcoming tax year. The IRS typically announces the new thresholds alongside other inflation adjustments around that time. The threshold changes are usually pretty modest - typically $50-150 increases year over year based on inflation. For example, the unearned income threshold was $2,200 for 2024 and increased to $2,300 for 2025. So while it's good to check each year, you're usually looking at relatively small adjustments rather than dramatic changes. I'd recommend bookmarking the IRS's annual inflation adjustments announcement (they usually publish it as a news release) since it covers not just the kiddie tax thresholds but all the other inflation-adjusted amounts that might affect your family's taxes.

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Yes, Publication 929 gets updated annually, usually released in late fall/early winter for the following tax year. For 2026 filing (2025 tax year), you'd want to check the updated version that comes out around November-December 2025. The threshold adjustments are typically modest - usually increasing by $50-100 per year based on inflation. For example, the unearned income threshold was $2,200 in 2023, $2,300 in 2024, and remains $2,300 for 2025 (no adjustment this year). So while they do change, it's generally incremental rather than dramatic jumps. I'd recommend bookmarking the IRS page for Publication 929 and just checking it each fall when you're doing tax planning. The IRS also usually announces the inflation adjustments in a press release around October/November each year.

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@Ethan Wilson Yes, Publication 929 gets updated annually, usually released in late December or early January for the upcoming tax year. The IRS also updates their website with the new thresholds around the same time. The threshold adjustments are typically modest - usually increases of $50-150 per year based on inflation. For example, the unearned income threshold was $2,200 in 2023, $2,300 in 2024, and remains $2,300 for 2025 no (change this year .)So while it s'good to check annually, you re'usually looking at relatively small incremental changes rather than dramatic jumps. I d'recommend bookmarking the IRS page for Publication 929 and just checking it each January when you start thinking about taxes. That way you ll'always have the most current thresholds for your planning.

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Yes, Publication 929 gets updated annually, usually by late December or early January for the upcoming tax year. The IRS also updates their online version on their website, so you can always find the current year's thresholds there. The threshold adjustments are typically modest - usually increasing by $50-150 per year based on inflation. For example, the unearned income threshold was $2,200 in 2023, $2,300 in 2024, and remains $2,300 for 2025 (no change this year). So while it's good to check each year, you're usually not looking at dramatic shifts that would completely change your filing situation. I'd recommend bookmarking the IRS page for Publication 929 and just checking it each December when you're starting to think about the upcoming tax season. That way you'll always have the most current numbers for planning purposes.

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Yes, Publication 929 gets updated annually, usually by late fall/early winter before tax season. The IRS typically releases the updated version with the new year's thresholds around November or December. As for the adjustments, they're usually pretty modest - typically increases of $50-$100 per year based on inflation. For example, the unearned income threshold went from $2,200 in 2024 to $2,300 in 2025. Nothing dramatic, but enough that it's worth checking each year rather than assuming it stays the same. You can also find the current year thresholds in the instructions for Form 8615 when they're released, which is sometimes easier to locate than digging through the full publication.

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@Ethan Wilson Yes, Publication 929 gets updated annually, usually released in late fall/early winter for the upcoming tax year. The IRS typically announces the new thresholds around November or December. The threshold adjustments are usually pretty modest - typically $50-100 increases year over year based on inflation. For example, the unearned income threshold went from $2,200 in 2023 to $2,300 in 2024, and stayed at $2,300 for 2025. Some years there s'no change at all if inflation is minimal. I d'recommend bookmarking the IRS website and checking for the updated Publication 929 each December. That way you ll'have the current year s'thresholds well before tax season starts. Much easier than trying to hunt down the info in April when everyone s'scrambling!

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@Ethan Wilson Yes, Publication 929 gets updated annually, usually released in late December or early January for the upcoming tax year. The IRS also publishes a Revenue Procedure each year like (Rev. Proc. 2024-40 for 2025 tax year that) lists all the inflation-adjusted amounts. The threshold adjustments are typically modest - usually $50-100 increases per year based on inflation. For example, the unearned income threshold was $2,200 for 2024 and $2,300 for 2025. However, during periods of higher inflation like we ve'seen recently, the adjustments can be slightly larger. I d'recommend bookmarking the IRS s'annual inflation adjustment announcements or setting a calendar reminder each January to check for the updated thresholds. It s'also worth noting that these same inflation adjustments affect other tax provisions like standard deductions and tax bracket thresholds, so it s'useful info beyond just the kiddie tax rules.

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Yes, Publication 929 gets updated annually, usually in late fall or early winter before tax season begins. The IRS typically releases the updated version around November or December with the new thresholds for the upcoming tax year. The threshold adjustments are generally modest - usually anywhere from $50 to $200 increases per year based on inflation. For example, the unearned income threshold went from $2,200 in 2023 to $2,300 in 2024, and stayed at $2,300 for 2025. Some years it doesn't change at all if inflation is low. I'd recommend bookmarking the IRS.gov page for Publication 929 and checking it each December to get ahead of the game for the following year's planning. That way you can adjust your kids' investment strategy if needed to stay under the threshold.

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Yes, Publication 929 gets updated annually, usually released in late fall/early winter before the tax filing season begins. You can find it on the IRS website at irs.gov, and they archive previous years' versions too if you need to reference older thresholds. The threshold adjustments are typically modest - usually increases of $50-$150 per year based on inflation. For example, the unearned income threshold was $2,200 in 2023, $2,300 in 2024, and remains $2,300 for 2025. So while it does change, it's not dramatic year-to-year increases. Pro tip: if you bookmark the general Publication 929 page rather than a specific year's PDF, it will automatically show you the current version each time you visit. Makes it easy to check the updated thresholds each tax season without hunting for the new publication!

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Yes, Publication 929 gets updated annually, usually in late fall/early winter before tax season starts. You can find it on the IRS website - just search for "Publication 929" and make sure you're looking at the current tax year version. The threshold adjustments are typically modest - usually increasing by $50-$100 per year based on inflation. For example, the unearned income threshold was $2,200 in 2023, $2,300 in 2024, and remains $2,300 for 2025. Sometimes it stays flat if inflation doesn't warrant an increase. I'd recommend bookmarking the IRS Publications page and checking it each December/January when planning for the upcoming tax year. The changes are usually announced well before filing season begins.

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Yes, Publication 929 gets updated annually, usually released in late December or early January for the upcoming tax year. The IRS typically announces the new thresholds as part of their annual inflation adjustments. The threshold changes are usually pretty modest - typically $50-100 increases from year to year. For example, the unearned income threshold was $2,200 in 2023, $2,300 in 2024, and remains $2,300 for 2025. Sometimes it stays the same for a couple years if inflation is low. I'd recommend bookmarking the IRS's annual revenue procedure announcements (usually Rev. Proc. 2024-XX format) since they publish all the updated tax brackets and thresholds in one place each fall. Makes it easy to check if your kids will still be under the threshold as their accounts grow!

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Yes, Publication 929 gets updated annually, usually released in late fall/early winter for the following tax year. The IRS typically publishes the updated version around November or December, so you'd want to check for the 2026 version around that timeframe. As for the threshold adjustments, they're usually pretty modest - typically increasing by $50-150 per year based on inflation. For example, the threshold was $2,200 in 2023, $2,300 in 2024, and remains $2,300 for 2025 (sometimes it stays the same if inflation adjustments round down). So while it's good to check each year, you're usually looking at small incremental changes rather than dramatic jumps. The IRS also announces these changes in their annual inflation adjustments press release, which is another reliable source if you want to stay on top of it!

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Yes, Publication 929 gets updated annually, usually released in late December or early January for the upcoming tax year. The IRS typically announces the new thresholds along with other inflation adjustments around that time. As for the amounts, the changes are usually pretty modest - typically $50-150 increases year over year. For example, the threshold was $2,200 for 2024 and $2,300 for 2025, so just a $100 bump. It's based on inflation adjustments, so in years with higher inflation you might see slightly larger increases, but nothing dramatic. I'd recommend checking the IRS website or subscribing to their tax updates if you want to stay on top of these changes. The threshold adjustments affect a lot of families with kids' investment accounts, so it's definitely worth tracking!

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@Ethan Wilson Yes, Publication 929 gets updated annually, usually around December or January for the upcoming tax year. The IRS typically releases the updated thresholds along with other inflation adjustments. The changes are usually pretty modest - typically $50-$150 increases per year based on inflation. For example, the unearned income threshold went from $2,200 in 2024 to $2,300 in 2025. So while it s'good to check each year, you re'usually looking at small incremental changes rather than dramatic shifts. I d'recommend bookmarking the IRS website page for Publication 929 and just checking it each December when you re'starting to think about the next year s'taxes. That way you ll'always have the most current thresholds for planning purposes.

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