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Miguel Silva

Jump in Income from $120k to $170k - What Tax Changes Should I Expect?

So I've been at my company for about 3 years, working as a senior project manager making around $120k annually. Last month I got promoted to director level with a significant salary bump to $170k. This is awesome but I'm starting to worry about what this means for my taxes. I've always been in the 24% tax bracket I think, but now I'm guessing I'll move up? I'm curious what kind of tax hit I should expect and if there are any smart moves I should make before the end of the year. I'm married filing jointly and my spouse makes about $45k. We have a mortgage and I contribute about 8% to my 401k currently. Will my entire income be taxed at a higher rate? Should I increase my 401k contributions? Any other deductions I should be looking at now? This is my first time having such a significant income increase and I want to be prepared come tax time.

Congrats on the promotion! Your concern about tax brackets is valid, but remember that the US has a progressive tax system - only the income within each bracket gets taxed at that bracket's rate. For 2025 filing (2024 tax year), the 24% bracket for married filing jointly is roughly $95,375 to $182,100, so your combined income of about $215k ($170k + $45k) will have a portion in the 32% bracket. But that higher rate only applies to the amount over $182,100, not your entire income. Some smart moves: Definitely consider increasing your 401k contributions - the 2024 limit is $23,000 (plus catch-up if you're over 50). This reduces your taxable income. You might also look into an HSA if you have a qualifying health plan. Other considerations: Check if you need to adjust your W-4 withholding with your employer to avoid an underpayment surprise. Also, at your new income level, certain tax deductions and credits may begin to phase out, so plan accordingly.

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Does this mean they should increase their tax withholding at work? And do you think they'd benefit from meeting with a tax professional at this income level?

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Yes, they should probably adjust their W-4 withholding to account for the higher income, especially since they're now partially in the 32% bracket. The IRS Tax Withholding Estimator tool can help determine the right withholding amount. At their new income level, consulting with a tax professional could definitely be beneficial. A good tax advisor can identify tax-efficient investment strategies, potential deductions they might miss on their own, and help with tax planning that could save them money in the long run.

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How accurate is it? I've tried other tax calculators before and they always seem to miss something important. Does it account for state taxes too?

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Did it suggest any specific deductions that were especially helpful at that income level? I'm in a similar boat with a recent promotion.

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When my income went from $90k to $150k, I made the mistake of not adjusting anything. Got hit with a $7k tax bill at filing time! Don't be me! Increase your withholding now and max out that 401k contribution if you can. Also check if you're now above income limits for things like Roth IRA contributions.

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What about estimated tax payments? Do you need to start making those with the higher income if your company is withholding taxes already?

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Generally, if your employer is withholding taxes from your paycheck, you don't need to make estimated tax payments as long as the withholding covers your tax liability. The key is making sure your W-4 is updated to reflect your higher income so enough is being withheld. However, if you have significant income from other sources (like investments, side businesses, etc.) or if your withholding isn't sufficient, then you might need to make estimated payments. The safe harbor rule says you won't face penalties if your withholding and estimated payments cover either 90% of your current year tax or 100% of your prior year tax (110% if your AGI was over $150,000).

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Has anyone here done the math on whether it's better to max 401k or do some in 401k and some in a Roth for this income level? I'm trying to figure out the best split now that my income is higher.

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At that income level ($170k+$45k), I'd prioritize traditional 401k contributions first to reduce current taxable income since you're partially in the 32% bracket. Get your income below the 24% threshold if possible. If you still have savings capacity after that, consider backdoor Roth contributions since you're above the income limits for direct Roth contributions. The tax-free growth can be valuable long-term, especially if you expect to be in a high tax bracket in retirement.

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Congratulations on your promotion! I went through a similar situation a couple years ago when my income jumped significantly. One thing that really helped me was calculating my estimated effective tax rate vs marginal rate - the effective rate increase isn't as scary as it first seems. With your combined income of $215k, you're right that some will hit the 32% bracket, but your effective rate will still be much lower. At your income level, definitely consider maxing the 401k ($23,000 for 2024) - every dollar you put in saves you 32 cents in taxes on the portion above $182,100. Also worth noting: make sure to update your W-4 with HR soon. The withholding tables might not automatically adjust properly for such a big jump mid-year, and you don't want to be surprised with a big bill next April. The IRS withholding calculator someone mentioned earlier is really helpful for this. One more tip - if you have an HSA option through your health plan, definitely max that out too ($4,300 individual/$8,550 family for 2024). It's the only triple tax advantage account we have!

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This is really helpful! I'm new to thinking about tax strategy at higher income levels. When you mention updating the W-4 with HR - is there a specific allowance number or percentage you'd recommend for someone in a similar situation? Also, I'm curious about the HSA - does that really make that much difference compared to just putting more in the 401k?

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