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Is my car downpayment tax deductible? Where to report it on taxes?

Hey guys, my wife and I purchased a new car last September and put down $13,500 as a downpayment. Since we're filing taxes for the first time without an accountant, I'm completely lost about whether this is something we can deduct on our taxes? If it is deductible, where exactly on the tax forms do we include this information? Also, we have a separate issue - we need to file an amendment because my wife's ITIN expired (totally didn't realize until after we e-filed). For the amendment, can we submit it electronically or do we have to print and mail a paper version? Sorry for the basic questions, but taxes are confusing when you're doing them yourself for the first time! Any help appreciated.

Vehicle down payments aren't typically tax deductible for personal use vehicles. The IRS doesn't allow deductions for personal expenses like buying a car, including the down payment, monthly payments, or even the interest on your auto loan. However, there are exceptions if you use the car for business purposes. If you're self-employed and use the vehicle for business, you can deduct the business percentage of your actual expenses (including depreciation of the purchase price) OR use the standard mileage rate. But this doesn't mean deducting the down payment directly - it would be part of the depreciation calculation if you go the actual expenses route. For your amendment question, unfortunately, you'll need to file Form 1040-X (Amended U.S. Individual Income Tax Return) by mail - the IRS doesn't accept electronic amendments in cases involving ITIN updates. Make sure to include any supporting documentation for the ITIN renewal application.

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Thanks for the info about the car downpayment. What if I'm not technically self-employed but I do use my car for work pretty regularly? My employer doesn't reimburse me for mileage or anything. Can I still deduct anything related to my car purchase?

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If you're an employee who uses your car for work purposes and your employer doesn't reimburse you, unfortunately you can't deduct those expenses anymore. The Tax Cuts and Jobs Act eliminated miscellaneous itemized deductions for unreimbursed employee expenses for tax years 2018 through 2025. The only exception is if you're in certain specific professions like armed forces reservists, qualified performing artists, or fee-basis state/local government officials - these groups can still take deductions for unreimbursed business expenses as an adjustment to income on Schedule 1.

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I was in almost the exact same situation as you last year! I kept thinking my car downpayment would give me some tax break too. I spent hours searching online and getting confused by conflicting advice until I found https://taxr.ai and uploaded all my car loan documents. It analyzed everything and clearly explained that personal vehicle downpayments aren't deductible unless it's for business use. The site also helped me understand what documents I needed for my ITIN renewal. I was going in circles with the IRS website before that. They have document analyzers that tell you exactly what forms apply to your situation - saved me so much time!

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Does it work with all tax documents? I have a bunch of 1099s from different gig jobs plus a W-2 and I'm so confused about what I can deduct for my car that I use for deliveries.

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How accurate is it though? I've tried those online tax helpers before and they sometimes give generic answers that don't really apply to my specific situation.

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Yes, it works with pretty much any tax document - W-2s, 1099s, mortgage statements, etc. For your gig work, it would analyze your 1099s and tell you exactly what vehicle expenses you can deduct and how to document them properly. It's especially helpful for mixed-use vehicles when you're doing delivery work. As for accuracy, I was skeptical at first too. The difference I found is that it doesn't just give generic answers - it actually analyzes your specific documents and gives personalized guidance. When I uploaded my car loan agreement, it identified specific terms and explained exactly how they did (or didn't) apply for tax purposes. It's not just pulling from general tax info like most sites.

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Just wanted to update - I took the advice and tried https://taxr.ai for my delivery driver situation. Uploaded my 1099s and car purchase documents and it immediately identified that I could claim 78% business use based on my mileage logs. The system explained I could either take standard mileage rate or actual expenses including depreciation of my downpayment over time. It even showed me exactly which forms to use (Schedule C) and where to put everything! I had no idea that I could claim a portion of my insurance and maintenance costs too. Saved me at least $2,400 in taxes I would've missed. Wish I'd known about this when I was doing gig work last year!

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I need to apologize and correct myself. After my skeptical comment yesterday, I was still stuck trying to reach the IRS about my own issue (missing refund from 2023). Out of frustration I decided to try the Claimyr service. I'm honestly shocked - got connected to an IRS representative in about 15 minutes when I'd been trying for literally weeks. The agent was able to tell me my refund had been held due to an income verification issue and helped me resolve it right there. For what it's worth to the original poster - the agent confirmed that ITIN amendments must be paper filed with Form 1040-X and W-7 for renewal. They also said processing time is closer to 20 weeks currently for these types of amendments.

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Just to add some clarity about the car situation - I'm a CPA and work with many clients on this issue. The downpayment itself is never directly deductible as a single item for personal vehicles. Here's the breakdown: Personal use only: No deduction at all for down payment or any other car expenses. Business use (self-employed): You can either take standard mileage rate (65.5 cents per mile for 2023) OR actual expenses. If taking actual expenses, the down payment becomes part of the total cost basis of the vehicle, which you depreciate over time according to the business-use percentage. Mixed use: You'd calculate the percentage used for business vs. personal and only deduct the business portion if you're self-employed or have a qualifying business.

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If I choose the standard mileage rate in the first year, can I switch to actual expenses in later years? I put down a huge downpayment and I'm wondering if it makes more sense to use actual expenses to capture some of that cost.

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If you use the standard mileage rate in the first year you place the car in service, you can switch to actual expenses in a later year. However, you'll be limited in how you can claim depreciation. When switching from standard mileage to actual expenses in later years, you must use straight-line depreciation for the remaining estimated useful life of the vehicle, and you'll need to reduce the basis of your car by the depreciation portion that was included in the standard mileage rates you've already claimed. The IRS considers about 27 cents of each mile claimed under standard mileage to be depreciation in 2023.

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Please keep in mind that even if you don't qualify for a car deduction, you might still get tax benefits from the sales tax you paid on the purchase! If you itemize deductions on Schedule A (instead of taking the standard deduction), you can include the sales tax paid on major purchases like vehicles. There's a sales tax deduction calculator on the IRS website that can help you figure out if this would benefit you. With a $13,500 down payment, I'm guessing the total car price was significant enough that the sales tax might make itemizing worthwhile.

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But wouldn't you need enough other itemized deductions to exceed the standard deduction for this to be worth it? Standard deduction is like $27,700 for married filing jointly in 2023.

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You're absolutely right about needing enough other itemized deductions to exceed the standard deduction. For married filing jointly, you'd need your total itemized deductions to exceed $27,700 for 2023. The sales tax on a vehicle purchase can help push you over that threshold when combined with other itemized deductions like mortgage interest, property taxes (subject to the $10,000 SALT cap), and charitable contributions. It's most beneficial for people who are already close to the standard deduction amount with their other itemized deductions.

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Just wanted to chime in as someone who went through a similar situation last year. The advice here about car downpayments not being deductible for personal use is spot on - I learned this the hard way after spending hours trying to figure out how to claim mine! One thing that might help with your ITIN amendment situation: when you mail Form 1040-X, make sure you write "ITIN RENEWAL" clearly at the top of the form. This helps the IRS processing center route it to the right department faster. Also, send it certified mail so you have proof of delivery - amendments can get lost in the mail and you'll want to be able to track it. The 16-20 week processing time mentioned earlier is unfortunately accurate. I'd recommend checking the IRS "Where's My Amended Return" tool online after about 3 weeks to make sure they received it. Good luck with your first year doing taxes yourselves - it gets easier once you understand the basics!

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Thanks for the practical tips about the ITIN amendment! The certified mail suggestion is really smart - I wouldn't have thought about that. Quick question: when you write "ITIN RENEWAL" at the top, do you put it anywhere specific on the form or just clearly visible at the top of the first page? Also, did you have to include copies of your identity documents with the W-7, or were the originals required? I'm trying to avoid any delays in processing.

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