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Is laptop a fixed asset? Can u depreciate it for tax purposes?

So I'm trying to set up my business accounts and I'm confused about my new MacBook Pro. Is laptop considered a fixed asset? Can u depreciate it over time? Also where does the depreciation amount per year actually go? Does it go in company expenses in Profit and Loss section? I've been filing my taxes using TurboTax but I'm setting up QuickBooks for my side business this year and want to make sure I'm categorizing everything correctly before I mess up my taxes.

Yes, a laptop is definitely considered a fixed asset for business purposes! It's tangible property with a useful life of more than one year, which is what makes it a fixed asset rather than a regular expense. For depreciation, you have a few options. Most small businesses use Section 179 to deduct the full cost of the laptop in the year you purchase it (up to certain limits). Alternatively, you can depreciate it over 5 years using MACRS (Modified Accelerated Cost Recovery System). As for where the depreciation goes, yes, it's counted as a business expense on your Profit and Loss statement, which reduces your taxable income. In QuickBooks, there's a specific category for depreciation expenses where you'd record the annual amount.

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Wait I'm confused...if I can deduct the whole cost in one year using that Section 179 thing, why would anyone choose to spread it out over 5 years? Is there some benefit to depreciating instead of taking the full deduction upfront?

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That's a great question! Some businesses might choose to depreciate over 5 years instead of taking the Section 179 deduction if they don't have enough profit in the current year to benefit from the full deduction. If you're just starting out and operating at a loss or with minimal profit, spreading the deduction over future years when you might be more profitable could make more sense tax-wise. Another reason is that some businesses prefer to match the expense with the useful life of the asset for more accurate financial reporting, especially if they're looking for loans or investors. But for most small businesses with profitable operations, taking the full Section 179 deduction in year one is typically the more advantageous option.

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Just wanted to add that my CPA told me laptops fall under "5-year property" for depreciation purposes according to IRS rules. But he also mentioned that if your laptop is under $2,500 you might be able to use the de minimis safe harbor election to deduct it all in one year without dealing with Section 179 or depreciation schedules.

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Do you know if there's a limit to how many items you can deduct with that de minimis thing? Like could I buy 5 laptops for my employees and deduct them all immediately?

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There's no specific limit to the number of items you can deduct using the de minimis safe harbor, but each individual item needs to be under the $2,500 threshold. So yes, you could potentially deduct 5 laptops for employees as long as each one costs less than $2,500. The important thing is that you need to have an accounting policy in place at the beginning of the year that specifies you're using this election, and you apply it consistently. Also keep in mind that this is separate from Section 179, which has much higher limits but different rules.

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Has anyone used the laptop depreciation feature in QuickBooks? I can't figure out how to set it up properly and their help docs are useless.

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QuickBooks Online isn't great for tracking depreciation honestly. I use a separate spreadsheet to calculate it and then just enter a journal entry at the end of each year for the depreciation expense. You can set up a fixed asset account for the laptop and then depreciate against it.

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I went through this exact same confusion when I started my consulting business! One thing that really helped me was understanding the difference between business use percentage - if you use the laptop for both personal and business purposes, you can only depreciate the business portion. So if it's 80% business use, you'd only depreciate 80% of the cost. Also, don't forget to keep good records of when you started using it for business (that's your "placed in service" date for depreciation purposes). And if you're just starting out, definitely talk to a tax professional about whether Section 179 or regular depreciation makes more sense for your specific situation - it can really depend on your expected income levels. The QuickBooks setup isn't too bad once you get the hang of it, but like others mentioned, you might want to track the depreciation calculations separately and just enter the annual amounts as journal entries.

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This is really helpful advice about the business use percentage! I didn't even think about that - I probably use my laptop about 70% for business and 30% personal stuff. Does that mean I need to track my usage somehow to prove the percentage to the IRS if they ask? Or is it more of an estimate based on typical use patterns? Also, when you mention the "placed in service" date - is that when I first bought the laptop, or when I first started using it for business? I bought mine in January but didn't start my side business until March.

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