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Charity Cohan

Is it too late to claim my 2019 tax refund after 3-year limitation? Extension question

I just realized I completely forgot about my 2019 taxes and never actually filed the return. From what I can tell after some quick searching online, there's a three-year limitation on claiming refunds, and for 2019 returns that deadline would have been July 2023 because of the COVID extension (they moved the original April 15 deadline to July 15). Here's my situation - I did file for an extension back in 2020 which should have given me until October 15, 2020 to file. But honestly, with everything going on that year, I completely spaced on actually submitting the return. I know I'm entitled to a decent refund based on my records. So my question is: Does the three-year limitation period end on July 15, 2023 (based on the original COVID-extended deadline), meaning I'm completely out of luck now? Or does it actually expire on October 15, 2023 (based on my filed extension), which would mean I still have a small window to get this done? I'm kicking myself for letting this slip through the cracks for so long.

Josef Tearle

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The three-year rule for claiming a refund is based on when you actually filed the return, or the due date including extensions - whichever is later. Since you requested an extension to October 15, 2020, but never filed, the three-year period would run from the original due date as extended by COVID relief, which was July 15, 2020. Unfortunately, this means the deadline to claim your 2019 refund would have been July 15, 2023. Even though you requested an extension to file, that extension doesn't extend the refund statute of limitations since you never actually filed by that extended date. The extension would have only protected you from late filing penalties if you had filed by October 15, 2020. It's still worth filing the return even though you likely won't receive the refund. Filing might be necessary for other reasons like documenting your income history, especially if you might need proof of income for loans or other financial matters in the future.

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Charity Cohan

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So basically I'm out of luck on getting the refund money? That's really disappointing. Do you know if there are any exceptions at all to this rule? Like if I had some kind of hardship during COVID or something?

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Josef Tearle

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The three-year refund statute is pretty strict, with very few exceptions. Military service in a combat zone or certain federally declared disaster areas can extend deadlines, but general COVID hardships don't qualify for additional extensions beyond the ones already granted to everyone. Filing the return is still important for your records even without the refund. In rare cases, the IRS has been known to consider refund requests after the deadline when there are exceptional circumstances, but these are extremely uncommon and require substantial documentation of why you were prevented from filing within the three-year period.

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Quinn Herbert

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Salim Nasir

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Simon White

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Just to add some clarity on the refund statute of limitations: The 3-year period runs from the later of (1) the original due date of the return or (2) the date you actually filed the return. Since COVID pushed the original 2019 due date to July 15, 2020, and you never actually filed, your deadline was indeed July 15, 2023. The extension request only protects you from late filing penalties if you had filed by October 15, 2020 - it doesn't extend the refund statute deadline unless you actually file during the extension period. One thing to consider - check if you had any tax payments made through withholding or estimated payments for 2019. While the refund statute may have expired, in some cases you might be able to apply those payments to other tax years where you have outstanding balances.

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Charity Cohan

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Thanks for the additional info. I did have withholding from my W-2 job in 2019. Can I really apply those old withholding payments to a more recent tax year where I might owe money? How would I go about doing that?

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Simon White

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You can potentially apply older withholding payments to more recent tax years, but it gets complicated after the refund statute expires. You would need to file the 2019 return first to establish the overpayment. Then you'd need to work with the IRS, typically through their Collections department, to request that they apply the credit to a different tax year. This isn't an automatic process and often requires explaining your situation to multiple IRS representatives. Be prepared with documentation showing your withholding (W-2s, 1099s, etc.) and any estimated payments you made for 2019. The IRS has discretion in these matters, so persistence and clear documentation are key.

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Hugo Kass

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In case anyone else is reading this thread with a similar issue - make sure you check if your state has different rules for claiming refunds! Some states have longer statutes of limitations than the federal 3-year rule. For example, in Montana you have 5 years to claim a refund, and in South Carolina it's 3 years from the date you actually file (with no expiration if you never filed). I almost missed out on a state refund because I assumed the deadlines were the same as federal.

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Nasira Ibanez

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That's a great point! Pennsylvania also has different rules - they follow a 3-year rule but it's calculated differently than the federal timeline. I managed to get a state refund even after my federal deadline had passed. Always worth checking your specific state's department of revenue website.

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CosmicCowboy

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I'm really sorry to hear about your situation, Charity. Unfortunately, based on the information you've provided, it does appear that you've missed the deadline for claiming your 2019 refund. The three-year statute of limitations would have expired on July 15, 2023, since that was the COVID-extended due date for 2019 returns. However, I'd strongly encourage you to explore a couple of options before giving up completely: 1. **File the return anyway** - Even without getting the refund, filing will create an official record of your income and any withholding or estimated payments you made. This could be important for future financial needs. 2. **Check for any special circumstances** - While rare, there are some exceptions to the three-year rule for things like military service in combat zones, living in federally declared disaster areas, or certain other documented hardships. 3. **Consider state refunds** - As Hugo mentioned, some states have different deadlines than federal. Check your state's rules - you might still be eligible for a state refund even if the federal deadline has passed. 4. **Apply withholding to other years** - If you had tax withholding in 2019 and owe money for other tax years, you might be able to work with the IRS to apply those payments to years where you have a balance due. Don't beat yourself up too much - 2020 was an incredibly challenging year for everyone, and it's understandable that things slipped through the cracks.

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This is really helpful advice! I'm new to dealing with tax issues like this, but I'm wondering - when you mention applying withholding to other years, does that only work if you actually owe money on those other years? Or could you potentially get a refund for a different year even if you originally broke even on that year's taxes? Also, how far back or forward can you typically apply those payments?

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