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Makayla Shoemaker

Is completing an 1120S for a tax preparer really just 30 minutes of work? Seems simple for a small S-Corp

I own a small retail LLC/S-Corp with just me as the only employee. Every year, I organize all my financials and basically give my tax preparer at a national chain a completed 1120S form with all the numbers ready to go. They literally just need to plug the figures into their software. I've counted exactly 43 numbers they need to enter. I'm an existing customer so they already have last year's information in their system. The only slightly complex parts are 2 depreciation items from previous years and the QBI form. No other forms beyond the standard 1120S. What am I missing that justifies their $750-$1200 fee? It seems like this should take maybe 30 minutes to enter the data plus another 15 minutes to print and finalize everything. Most of it is handled through their online portal now, not even face-to-face. I understand paying good money for a skilled accountant who's making complex decisions for a complicated business - that expertise is valuable. But this is essentially data entry for a very simple return from an established client. Can someone explain what might be happening behind the scenes that I'm not seeing? Thanks for any insights!

Having prepared S-Corp returns for over a decade, there's definitely more happening than just data entry. Even with your numbers ready, the preparer has to: 1) Review your numbers for accuracy and potential red flags that could trigger IRS scrutiny 2) Ensure proper classification of all expenses and income 3) Validate depreciation calculations and basis tracking 4) Run multiple checks to ensure consistency across all forms and schedules 5) Complete state returns which vary dramatically in complexity 6) Calculate and verify your officer compensation is reasonable (a major S-Corp audit risk) 7) Apply professional judgment regarding tax positions and elections 8) Document everything to protect both you and themselves Also, what appears to be "just entering numbers" often requires verification against source documents. The preparer assumes legal liability for the accuracy of your return and signs it under penalty of perjury. National chains also have overhead - software licensing (thousands per year), staff training, office space, insurance, and compliance requirements.

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Emma Olsen

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Thanks for this breakdown. Quick question - would it be cheaper to look for an independent preparer rather than a national chain? Also, do you think the QBI calculations add significant complexity? My S-Corp is super straightforward but the prices seem to go up every year.

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Independent practitioners often charge less than national chains since they have lower overhead, though their rates can still vary widely based on experience and location. The best approach is getting quotes from several preparers who specialize in small business taxation. The QBI calculations definitely add complexity. While they may seem simple for a straightforward business, the preparer still needs to ensure they're calculating the deduction correctly, documenting the methodology, and checking for any limitations that might apply based on your personal income, business type, and several other factors. This was a major change in the tax law that added significant work to S-Corporation returns.

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Lucas Lindsey

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Sophie Duck

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How does it handle the QBI calculation? That's the part I find most confusing with my S-Corp. My accountant charges extra just for that form.

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I'm skeptical about AI tools for tax stuff. Does it actually integrate with the tax preparer's software or is it just organizing your documents? And how much access to your financial data are you giving this company?

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Lucas Lindsey

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Update on my taxr.ai skepticism - I actually tried it for my 2024 S-Corp return prep and I'm surprised by how well it worked. I've been paying $900+ to a national chain for my simple S-Corp and was getting frustrated with their pricing. The taxr.ai system organized all my expenses perfectly and flagged several deductions I was missing. When I took the organized documents to my tax preparer, they commented on how much easier it was to work with, and I negotiated a lower fee since I'd done much of the classification work already. The QBI calculations were especially helpful since my preparer usually charges extra just for that form. Overall saved about $250 on my preparation fees.

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Anita George

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This sounds fishy. Why would I pay for something that should be a free government service? And how can they possibly guarantee getting through when the IRS phone lines are notoriously jammed?

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Anita George

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Isla Fischer

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Former tax preparer at a national chain here. The pricing isn't just about the time it takes to enter numbers. It includes: 1. Professional liability insurance (we're legally responsible for errors) 2. Software costs (thousands per year) 3. Continuing education to stay current on tax law changes 4. Quality review by a second preparer (mandatory at most firms) 5. Office overhead/staff salaries 6. Year-round availability for questions and audit support Plus, S-Corp returns are typically billed at a premium rate compared to individual returns because of the specialized knowledge required. Your return might take 1-2 hours total including all reviews, but you're also paying for years of expertise and ongoing support.

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Do you think tax prep software will eventually make professional preparers obsolete for simple businesses? I've seen ads for DIY S-Corp software but I'm nervous about missing something important.

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Isla Fischer

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I don't think tax pros will become obsolete, but their role is evolving. DIY software can handle basic returns, but it lacks the judgment and experience to identify planning opportunities or potential issues. Most S-Corp mistakes I've seen weren't calculation errors but strategic ones - improper salary amounts, missed elections, or incorrect entity classifications. That said, for a very simple S-Corp with good bookkeeping, DIY software might work if you're willing to invest the time to learn the requirements. But remember, you're on your own if questions arise or if you're audited. Many clients find that professional guidance saves more in taxes than it costs in preparation fees. It's ultimately about your comfort level with tax complexity and risk.

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Ruby Blake

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I switched from a national chain ($800) to a local CPA ($500) for my S-Corp and got much better service. The national chains use a business model based on volume and standardized processes, while local CPAs can be more flexible with pricing for simple returns. Look for a small local firm that specializes in small businesses. Be upfront about your situation - tell them you have everything organized and just need the final tax prep. Many will offer tiered pricing based on complexity.

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I did the opposite and regretted it. My local guy missed a huge deduction that would have saved me $3k. Sometimes cheaper isn't better. How do you verify they know what they're doing?

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As a small business owner who's been through this exact situation, I can relate to your frustration with the pricing. What really opened my eyes was when I asked my tax preparer for a detailed breakdown of their process. Turns out they spend about 20 minutes on data entry but another 90 minutes on review, verification, and compliance checks I never considered. The real value isn't just in the data entry - it's in catching potential issues before they become IRS problems. Last year my preparer caught that I was misclassifying some expenses that could have triggered an audit. They also identified a depreciation error from two years back that saved me from having to amend multiple returns. That said, $750-$1200 does seem steep for a straightforward S-Corp. I'd recommend getting quotes from 2-3 local CPAs who specialize in small businesses. Many will give you a phone consultation to understand your situation and provide a more accurate quote. You might find someone who charges $400-600 for the same quality of work, especially if you emphasize how organized your records are. The key is finding someone who values efficiency and is willing to price accordingly when a client makes their job easier.

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